Trout/Canelo Difference: Canelo's Footwork?

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  1. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm a big fan/critic of footwork. Everything starts at the feet, and footwork seems to be the most overlooked aspect in boxing nowadays.

    When looking at Canelo, I see a guy who provides himself a solid base to launch wickedly powerful shots once his feet are set. However, he waits until his feet are solidly set before launching those shots.

    To me, this is the key to his fight with Trout. Trout likes to use lateral movement. If he can keep Canelo setting, then re-setting his feet, he can limit Canelo's offensive output. Wash, rinse, and repeat and we end up with a fight in which Canelo just doesn't produce his normal level of offense.

    Am I right? Wrong? Somewhere in between?
     
  2. I think you're right but let's see what Canelo has changed for this fight. I've been watching Canelos previous fights to his most recent and nobody can deny; he is improving. Still a lot to learn but nonetheless improving. His combinations are explosive and he's great at cutting off the ring. If he can slow down trout with the body shots, he might be able to plant his feet and get his big combonations in the later rounds.
     
  3. bballchump11

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  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    odds are getting wider for canelo. I'm smelling homecooking :-( Bye bye v cash
     
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    This is the main thing with this fight and if Trout doesn't beat him Lara definitely will, Lara is fast on his feet, it would look like Rigo vs Donaire
     
  6. Bazooka

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    People are going to be shocked Saturday, your going to come back asking yourself how Canelos footwork ended up being the better of the two.

    Canelo is stopping Trout Saturday, I am sorry but Trout is does not have the style to get on his toes and box box box....

    He likes to sit in there with you squared up and tries to place his shots, he waits a little too much in spots and isnt exactly quick handed, Canelo is going to beat him to the punch step around trout and start all over again.

    He will do that all night until the stoppage comes.....

    Canelo TKO 10
     
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    Post a pic of your betslip big boy
     
  8. Bazooka

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    I would offer you a life time ban bet but you have multiple accounts it wouldnt serve as much....
     
  9. PetethePrince

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    You're 100% right. That's a big key to the fight. I think Canelo cuts the ring off well despite his strong set & punch style for lack of a better description. So the next key is stamina. Cotto was passed it but could press Trout well enough. Cotto lacked the physicality and power of a Canelo, and he also couldn't really sustain the needed motor. So for me the two biggest keys in determining the fight is Alvarez's feet, and stamina, because Trout while a good rangy boxer-mover is not remarkably special. He's hittable, and not particularly strong in any area the way Canelo is as an explosive puncher, and he's not quite as slick as his fans make him out to be.

    Also, Canelo is bigger and rangier than Cotto so it's not like Trout is completely immune or invincible at a longer range (Naturally, where he holds the advantage but not exactly all the cards the way he had against Cotto). That could be something people overlook in Alvarez... his boxing ability.
     
  10. Bogotazo

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    You're right, Canelo isn't someone that really throws on the move unless he's exploding into a combination.

    This is why instead of following Trout around the ring all night, he needs to do what he did with Mosley. Control the center patiently, edge towards the opponent as he moves, and let his hands go whenever they're in range.

    Check his tempo in the mid-rounds:

    :)30-35 mins)

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    (Seeing that again that ring looks huge for some reason.)

    This clip shows two things; on the one hand, Canelo can get tentative when backed up and give up space(although he is still dangerous when backed up, those body shots he throws while back-stepping in the clinch are vicious). On the other, when he is coming forward, he doesn't swarm, he does best when slowly cutting off the exits with most of the space to his back.

    As long as Canelo doesn't let himself get backed up by surprise by Trout's double jab and sudden ambush multi-slap-combinations, he can follow up and catch Trout as he pulls out.

    Agreed. Although not as skilled, at this stage Canelo's range will allow him to fire off straight punches with greater accuracy and reach Trout from more available positions than Cotto could. He's a boxer puncher who's not bad at setting his shots up behind a jab.
     
  11. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what are you talking about?

    pinnacle sportsbook, the largest sportsbook in the world, opened canelo as a -224 and he currently sits as a -187.
     
  12. PetethePrince

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    Yep, I think Canelo has to fight with urgency, though. Canelo fights incredibly relaxed, and really likes to take time off in between those bursts of explosive punching. I do not think he can get away with that against Trout. For as average as some may feel about Trout, he showed against Cotto that he's got a good workrate.
     
  13. Slickstar

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    This is a simple way to look at it, but I'm not confident in someone who had to fight that hard against a Shot Mosley beating Trout.

    Shot Mosley's jab and footwork was pushing Alvarez into uncharted terrirtory
     
  14. jeffjoiner

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. There are a lot of posters who's opinions I respect in here. I'll bump this tomorrow to get a little more before I lay a bet down.
     
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    Only use one mate, wouldnt do a life time ban bet on Trout hes not one of my favourite fighters