Prime Joe Calzaghe vs Prime Andre Ward @ 168

I considered Calzaghe prime at 34, as with Hopkins... I don't care who they were fighting, they were in their prime.

 

you obviously never watched calzaghes career through his twenties.er how can a speed and pressure fighter be prime at 34?

 

How the hell was Calzaghe not prime when he beat Jeff Lacy? You say how can a pressure fighter be prime at 34? What was stating to suffer? his work rate? Hell he threw nearly 1000 punches against Roy Jones.

A better question, what "shot" fighter can throw 100 punches a round?:huh

What fights do you consider Joe prime in? I think his style got more refined with age, and he never was a power puncher, I don't buy the bad hand ****.

 

what a legend

 

Lets look in the 3 legends he beat..

Hopkins- Very good win, was old, but LHW champ and still effective at a high level as long as he gets the right fights.

Eubank-decent win.. Past his best for sure, at 168 anyway. His fights at CW prove he did have a little fight left in him, I won't go into weight problems, because I think that wrongfully takes away from wins, you are professionals, make the weight.

Roy Jones- Meaningless win, was knocked out twice 4 years before fighting Calzaghe, struggled to beat 2 cans and a shot blown up WW up to the Calzaghe fight. Still fighting and has not had an elite win since 03.. At the time of the fight Jones had fought over 100 rounds more than Calzaghe, and was world champ a weight below and 2 weights above Joe's lowest and highest weights.. A money fight for Roy and Calzaghe, Joe saw this as a great chance to fight a once great fighter with a great name, take the cash, and ride off into the sunset with his 0 in tact.

 

Ward would demolish Joe. Calzaghe does not have the power, and Ward works better on the inside. Ward would switch to southpaw, and counter joe's pitty pat left hook all night long. Ward is 20x the counter puncher Joe is, there is no one on here who is going to tell me otherwise. Joe gets clipped by Bad Chad too. And Joe was a good fighter too btw.

 

What, when he was going life and death with Robin Reid and laboring to boring points wins over Thornberry and Starie.

 

Thats right Barry, I guess you missed most of Calzaghes career as you would know a bit more, but you dont.
With those fights were all times when he was having serious hand problems. He barely even sparred when he fought Starie and considered it a low time, with Thornberry and Reid he had hand problems but prevailed every single time. Against Reid he had people who were putting things in his food and went into that fight unwell, yet clearly beat a world class SMW. Starie was another good win and the fighter that took Clinton Woods 0, who owned a win over G Johnson and Gonzalez

 

What sort of a stupid thing is that to say?....What applies to one does not apply to all...Kessler was injured fighting Joe, so how was he in his prime?

 

Putting stuff in his food?? The ref was at Reid worse than the ref in the Ottke fight, all down to Franks pull....You think posting that stupid **** is convincing people Joe was better than he was?..It just makes you look stupid.

 

I don't buy the hand excuses.

Roy Jones had hand problems, and was an elite puncher, his style actually relied on having good power, unlike Joe's... Roy actually had to change his style as he got older to preserve his hands.. Those insane combinations were seen less and less as he got older, and he picked his shots wisely.

Against Hopkins his hand/wrist was broken.

Against Toney, he suffered a broken right hand all through training camp, and couldn't work the heavy bag.. The first right he threw against Toney was the first in months.

No one talks about that because he was so dominant.. Had he looked bad though, I am sure excuses would have been made, as you are for Joe.

 

ward.he'd turn calzahe's aggression against him.

 

So ****ing what?!

Boxers fight through injury, its part of the game.. Like I said, Roy Jones also had hand problems, and threw much harder than Calzaghe. It is not an excuse. Speaking to Calzaghe fans, It is like he needed to be in intensive care and not a boxing ring.

There is always an excuse for poor, old, bloated, poisoned, shot, brittle boned Calzaghe, and how he was this elite power puncher that had to change his style.

Also, quit being a *****.. Multiple posts I have read from you, has a complaint about how horrible this place is and how you are too good to post here, it doesn't make your point any more clear... If you hate it so much, don't post.