"Tyson Fury" and his chances of Heavyweight Glory

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  1. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So who was it terrorizing then? The British?

    Who are these Irish historians who call it an act of terrorism?

    The Irish people certainly don't consider it an act of terrorism:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056060565&page=2

    How is seizing strategic positions around the city of Dublin terrorism anyway?

    Don't get me wrong, the IRA carried out acts that could be considered terrorism(so did the British), but the easter rising isn't one of them.
     
  2. WinstonBarry

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    Christ, behave.

    The Irish people consider it an act of terrorism because it's an origin myth for their country; it's a heavily mythologised event, but popular imagination doesn't determine the qualities of it, that's for professional historians.

    An organisation - the IRB - that instigated the act was an extranational institution that was revolutionary; revolutionary institutions are terroristic by virtue of their purported goal: which is the implementation of a new government, or in the case of separatists, a new State. The Rising falls within that remit as they operated within Ireland which was part of the United Kingdom - the objective was separatism, and terrorism was the most effective tool in their estimation of achieving that.

    The only democratic and civil organisation that attempted separatism though peaceful means was the Irish Party, but then they, and the likes of Redmond, don't really capture of the Irish imagination given the progression of events after 1916.
     
  3. Metal Man

    Metal Man Active Member Full Member

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    Fury is not an easy fight for anyone.He's a very good inside fighter with an array of punches.If he gets inside Haye or any fighter for that matter he would make life very difficult.
     
  4. Say all the negative **** you guys want but lets be real, he's only 24 so he's got plenty of time to improve. He's already one of the best Heavyweights in the world so by his late 20s early 30s imo he'll be the best in the world.
     
  5. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    His chances are non-existant. Second he faces a good heavyweight he will be knocked out.

    He needs to cherry pick his opponents and play on the exposure he has received as much as possible in order to make the most $$ that he can.
     
  6. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    was William Wallace a terrorist:think :good
     
  7. WinstonBarry

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    Bit of a red-herring given the Anglo-Scottish wars were a pre-modern conflict. Nation States hadn't even emerged in the 13th/14th centuries.
     
  8. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats absolute bollox, terrorism has to terrorize someone. Where are these Irish historians who are calling it an act of terrorism?

    You can consider them a terrorist group, but the rising itself was not a terrorist act, it was a direct attack on the state. What terrorist tactics where used here? Who was it terrorizing?
     
  9. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People always say this but it's just a cop out. When Broner or Fury does it it's fake, but Hamed always gets a free pass. At least Fury can sing.
     
  10. Metal Man

    Metal Man Active Member Full Member

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    The finish was a display of great punching by Fury.He landed a crisp uppercut that hurt Cunningham,then a hurtful bodyshot another couple of punches followed by another uppercut then the knockout right hook.Great variety and power and when he sits down on his punches he can dig.He convincingly won the last 3 rounds.
     
  11. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ok so no:huh....the amarican war of independence....was that an act of terrorism....:good
     
  12. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    all be it badly:good
     
  13. Abertawe

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    Tyson trying to since after he'd been floored by a shot to his nose was the brightest idea, he's average to good normally.
     
  14. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll admit he was out of form last night. Probably lost his voice cheering for Hughie
     
  15. WinstonBarry

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    Any act of violence has the quality of 'terror', but 'terrorism' has a specific meaning because it's wedded to politics.

    A terrorist act is a illegitimate & unlawful assault on a government or State - the Rising falls within that category because the IRB utilised acts of violence and destruction to pursue a political objective against the legitimate government and State governing Ireland.