"Tyson Fury" and his chances of Heavyweight Glory

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ElCep, Apr 21, 2013.


  1. WinstonBarry

    WinstonBarry Active Member Full Member

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    Except they didn't, ergo the extraordinary success of the Irish Party :roll:
     
  2. Mugsy

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    Way off topic now
     
  3. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After last night, Fury's best shot at a title in the near future is the WBC. Pulev is a dangerous fight and Wlad is just too fast and powerful.

    However the Arreola/Stiverne winner or the Banks/Mitchell winner would be winnable fights for Fury.
     
  4. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wat bogus history... its clear ur coming from a unionist/british background and therefore arguing from that stance :good
     
  5. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Easter rising was referred to as the sinn fein rebellion at the time. That is fact and all I said.

    Hilarious that you fail to back up your claim that the Easter rising was an act of terrorism with the reference of one decent historian.

    Where did I claim that Irish history was one oppressive slog, are you claiming that the firsts 'British blunders' where after 1916? That the people of Ireland where in love with British rule? That there wheren't historical risings and rebellions before 1916? No oppression of Irish catholic beliefs/ blatant sectarian laws?

    It was all rosy in Ireland until 1916 alright.

    Your just some unionist who spouts rubbish.
     
  6. The Irish had been rebelling against British rule for centuries such as the 1798 rebellion led by Wolf Tone and the 1803 rebellion led by Robert Emmet ( Who I'm named after :D) So British rule had always been opposed by a large portion of the Irish population. The Easter rising was just another part of the rebellion just like the troubles in the later part of the nineteenth century.

    The Easter rising was an act of rebellion not terrorism, even the British government recognize this.
     
  7. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl oh jesus

    why are you lads bothering with this guy?
     
  8. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes he is..and like his party leader peter robinson ..thinks that northern nationalists really want to remain part of the union even though election after election they vote sinn fein or the sdlp:yep:good
     
  9. WinstonBarry

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    The Easter Rising was a terrorist act because it meets every criteria of an act of terrorism. I don't have my library at hand - the only historian I can remember from memory who's a native of Ireland and specialises in this subject is David Fitzpatrick.

    'British blunder ever since the English came here' imply what I said: a conceptualisation of Irish history as one oppresive slog to 1922. It's a false narrative that's predicated heavily on teleology. The people of Ireland were largely Home Rulers / Nationalists, not Republicans. Finally, there were intermittent rebellions - not all of which are connected, infact, all of them are only tenuously connected. Sectarian laws were lifted in 1829 with the Catholic Emancipation Bill in Parliament.
     
  10. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hes been rumbled...hes a unionists from the north of ireland... bye bye :good
     
  11. WinstonBarry

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    Sorry, but those rebellions are singular events and don't necessarily capture the sentiment of all Irishmen. For example, your average Irishmen in the late 18th century was a peasant who didn't give a **** about who was governing; the principal concern of the 1798 rebellions was twofold: 1) Presbyterian & Catholics antagonism towards the Protestant Ascendency (with the key players being Presbyterians with the origin of the rebellion found within Presbyterian Churches and 2) Republican idealism brought back from veterans from the American War of Independence.
     
  12. WinstonBarry

    WinstonBarry Active Member Full Member

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    Difficult to participate in debates with facts, isn't it? You're coming off this pretty badly.
     
  13. WinstonBarry

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    Because they can't get enough of this intellectual pasting they're getting ;)

    I know my stuff, they clearly don't.
     
  14. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure you do buddy.

    didn't take you long to reveal your agenda did it.
     
  15. fra

    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fact... ur a unionist from the north of ireland... who hasnt said anything but his opinion

    fact... u arent listening 2 anyone elses opinions...ur unionists intransigence wont allow that

    fact...u havent a clue about irish history ... as shown by ur deluded ramblings:good