"Tyson Fury" and his chances of Heavyweight Glory

Arrrrr, I'm sorry - you spent all that time scouring Google trying to construct some glib argument only for me to discontinue the discussion; boo hoo - I'm sure you'll get over it :good

 

No i didn't.

I spent my time eating dinner.

As I said, full of ****.

 

Sure you did

Like a good boy you was trying to do your homework to compete with the best. Next time, maybe. :good

 

who said they were republicansatsch... i said they wanted irish independence and the reinstatement of home rule was the first step towards that... oconnell was opposed to violence due his devout catholic beliefs and also because of what he had witnessed in france during his youth... so constituational nationalism was always going to be his way forward
but your clueless if u believe he had some form of mutual identity to yourself:good

 

Yeah because what I said really needs Google, its basic ****ing history.

**** off you west brit *****.

Later. :hi:

 

'Irish independence' is separatism, which is synonymous with republicanism. The only thing the Nationalists wanted was devolved government - seriously need to crack open those history books my friend

O'Connell was a democrat who emulated Henry Grattan - that's why he went down the Parliamentary route - he wanted to reinstate the Grattan Constitution, that's why he didn't resort to violence.

 

bored now because uve been exposed as a lieing unionist arsehole
:good

 

Lets say Price beats Thompson in their rematch and Vitali decides to hang up his gloves,would Fury v Price be a fair enough fight for the vacant title?

Just trying to get back to boxing here!

 

Indeed, which is even why it's more shocking that you needed all that time to google it.

Probably be better to invest in the books so next you'll have a clue in any discussion on the subject :good

 

Ditto you've been exposed as an ignorant, doctrinaire blowhard who cares more about mythology than history :good

 

You mean how I had already brought it all up earlier?

There isn't anything there I haven't already saidatsch

But sure we Irish need Google to repeat ourselves.:tired

Enjoy reading your west Brit historical whitewashes and **** off to pulseresources.org where you'll fit right in with other west brit Irish men moaning about mainstream Irish historical bias.

 

no it wasnt not then... maybe now... but not then
read about oconnell his religion and experiences in france were the deciding factor behind his political stance... if u dont know that then you dont know anything of significance about him.. so on that note im away out for a pint:good

 

Asserting something doesn't make it true :good

I'm glad though that I spurred you on to a tour de force of rabid Google inspired history learning on Ireland.

There's a revolution at the moment in Irish history, all stemming from the work of Peter Hart, all that mythology is getting dumped :good

 

It most definitely meant that back in the 19th and early 20th century.

O'Connell's main consideration was Gratten, which is obvious considering it was his constitution hr was trying to re-impleemnt. He was a democrat, not a thug like the IRB / Fenians :good

 

Sure it is.

Perhaps amongst unionist revisionists.

Now **** off you wanna be Brit.