If Dawson could man up and move down in weight, why can't Alvarez?

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  1. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Since Alvarez is calling out a small welterweight, why not follow Chad's example and go fight @ 147?
     
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    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Dude, wtf ? I already told you that Alvarez weighs 170 pounds. Thats 23 pounds. :patsch
    Dawson drained 18 pounds and look what happened.
     
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    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Dude, Dawson walks around a lot heavier than the 186 pounds you imply.

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    As for the thread; there is a reason why Chad Dawson and Oscar de la Hoya are so frequently brought up for returning to divisions after 4+ years. It doesn't happen very much, let alone on the world stage where both fighters bring something to the table.
     
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    Right, however the expectation is that Mayweather should give up 20+ pounds on fight night? That's insane. If Alvarez wants to fight a welterweight then he should move down to 147lbs. We have weight classes for a reason and asking a welterweight to fight a super middleweight makes no sense.

    1 + 1 = 2
     
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    Dawson was 186 that night and i believe he was that most of his LHW bouts as well.
    I thought if he walked around under 190 it meant he could drop some pounds without hurting his body so the dehydration would not be as heavy on his body.
    :patsch

    Anyhow, just because Chavez Jr can drop up to 20 pounds and still be effective does not mean that every fighter can do it, especially smaller men. :-(
     
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    Dawson punch-resistance was shut to pieces by the weight loss. Ward isn't really a puncher.
    Johnson is a better example. But then again Glen chin was iron made.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

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    Wait who wants who to fight Andre Ward?!?

    And if you're going to remain consistent with this stupid rehydration nonsense bull**** people are spewing about recently, than it would be a junior middleweight against a light heavyweight (Mayweather weighed 150+ fight night, Alvarez weighed 172 against Trout).
     
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    Floyd either fights a bigger man or not... thats all there is to it. If he claims to be a champ at LMW then by all means he should fight Canlo.

    And why should Canelo drain himself ?
    Double standards ?

    (I dont think they should fight because it would be unfair but i would love to see it at 154.)
     
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    It's the way it should work since Canelo is the one chasing Floyd. But Floyd won't get any credit if he wins since he would be accused of making a guy drop down in weight so he can be drained.

    What about a rehydration clause? Don't see any issues with this. Canelo shouldn't go any higher than 160-165 which is about the biggest weight Floyd's ever faced.
     
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    I was just speaking about Dawson weighing much more than 186 between camps.

    I didn't know his fight night weight against Ward to be honest (so I really don't even understand your second statement, but I don't disagree with you or anything... nor was my post bitter if it sounded that way).

    But yeah, as for JCC Jr, he's a freak like that but I think we all know how he does it (and he's been caught once before).
     
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    floyd will have no trouble countering canelo's attack...floyd would beat him at 154.
     
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    Ok, I'm fine with that.

    Now ask yourself this question; Why does the Canelo crowd want to see a jr middle fight a light heavy?

    Lol.

    Alvarez = J O K E
     
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    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Mayweather, unless shot to pieces, beat Alvarez, with ease.
     
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    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I believe Dawson was 186 against Ward and i believed if he walked around that weight he could move down with ease. I was shocked when i saw that he rehydrated that much.
     
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    No one is beating someone like Canelo with ease. Canelo has speed, power, height and weight advantages. At one point size does matter. Floyd would have a thougher night then against Cotto because Canelo has a similar stile but is physically much stronger.