Joe Frazier P4P Vs Roy Jones at HW, If Jr. had the balls to even fight at HW!?...

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  1. dyna

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    Holy lost to Ruiz, Lewis retired after Vitali :patsch
     
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    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier LITERALLY ends him... he would probably retire after the fight..and if he didn't... he would take a year off to recover mentally and physically
     
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  3. dyna

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    He fought 7 months after the Lebedev KO again.

    Frazier would probably KO him, but Roy would come back, like always.
    He wouldn't a year, 5-7 months or so and he's fighting again.
     
    dyna, Apr 22, 2013
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  4. MAG1965

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    terrible matchup for Roy. I cannot see Roy lasting more than 2 rounds.
     
    MAG1965, Apr 22, 2013
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  5. Loudon

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    I agree it's a terrible match up, but I think Roy could have hung with lots of heavies for over two rounds. Speed can offset a lot of things. Roy's feet and reflexes were so fast.
     
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  6. Loudon

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    Go and do some research, and then get back to us.
     
    Loudon, Apr 22, 2013
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    FFS Frazier kills him
     
    ron u.k., Apr 22, 2013
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    Frazier destroys him, i'm doubtful that Roy even has the power to significantly hurt Frazier. That left hook would BODY Jones.
     
    tommygun711, Apr 22, 2013
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  9. TheSouthpaw

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    Probably!!!???....your just another Roy loving idiot...I dont know what else to say about you dude..Your a typical Roy lover..just excuse after excuse for him..its really sad
     
    TheSouthpaw, Apr 22, 2013
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  10. TheSouthpaw

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    Ill do that...And in the mean time ill tell 98% of the people on this thread that your right and they are wrong.....k :good
     
    TheSouthpaw, Apr 22, 2013
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  11. TheSouthpaw

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    Tell that to Loudon!!!:p
     
    TheSouthpaw, Apr 22, 2013
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    I agree, but Frazier or Tyson would just have to step inside and trap Roy and hit the body and then the head a few times.
     
    MAG1965, Apr 22, 2013
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    Frazier wasn't a stalker, stalkers (Joe Louis/Alexis Arguello) aren't constantly throwing punches.
     
    Capaedia, Apr 23, 2013
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  14. TheSouthpaw

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    That really makes no sense what so ever...:verysad
     
    TheSouthpaw, Apr 23, 2013
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  15. Loudon

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    Show me where I've said that Roy would have beaten Frazier.

    I'm questioning your hate for Roy, not your actual question.

    You are being ridiculous typing things such as "if he had the balls to even fight at heavyweight"

    What's all that about?

    If you'd have started a thread, titled "How would the the Ruiz version of Roy Jones, have fared against a peak Joe Frazier?" Then that would be fine.

    But why all the cheap shots?

    Ruiz wasn't cherry picked, and how many guys who started out at 154-160 have fought at heavyweight, and dominated a top ten guy?

    We know Ruiz wasn't like a 65 version of Ali, but he was solid and effective.

    He was a top ten guy, who beat and knocked down Holy, who was obviously passed his best, but who wasn't shot to ****.

    Then a natural 168/175 guy completely dominates him for every round, yet doesn't get an ounce of credit? Ha!

    At the end of the day, Roy did something that hadn't been done in 106 years, and he did something that most SMW's, LHW's and even CW's wouldn't even contemplate doing.

    If I made a thread about Carl Froch, Kessler, or Ward fighting Frazier at heavy, I'd get laughed at, because people wouldn't be able to even envisage those guys fighting at heavy.

    What current LHW's do you think will go and have a run at heavy?

    How many of today's CW's do you think will decide to step up?

    You and Lord Tywin are complete jokers!
     
    Loudon, Apr 23, 2013
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