An Examination of Mayweather's Alleged Cherrypicked Career

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  1. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One of the common theme thrown around on here, is that Mayweather is a career cherrypicker and never faced any challenges.

    Mayweather has fought 43 professional fights. Out of these, the first 36 fights were made while he was under Bob Arum and Top Rank. So anything that happened during this time period he didn't have complete control over.

    After breaking from Arum in late 2006 he's fought

    1)Lineal WW Champion Baldomir -8million purse

    2) Jr. MW Champion Oscar DLH who was rated top 10 p4p-record breaking PPV sales

    3) Undefeated Jr. WW Ricky Hatton who won a WW title and was rated in the top 10 p4p. Hatton would drain down to 140 and was actually heavier than Floyd.

    4) JMM- Number 3 P4P. Called out Mayweather. Although he was supposed to be a light weight, JMM would rehydrate to the 140's. He weighed 146 fight night against Floyd and gave 3 or 4lbs at the most. If people think that's so unfair, then I don't see how they can think Floyd giving up 22lbs to Canelo is fair.

    5) Shane Mosley- 1 rated WW, champion, top 3 p4p. Coming of a destruction of Mayweather booheyman Margarito. Everybody and there mama was on hre claiming that Mosley was a real challenge who could KO Floyd and if Floyd din't take the fight he was ducking.

    6) Victor Ortiz- WBC WW champ, 14lbs heavier.

    7) Miguel Cotto- Jr. MW champion, undefeated at 154.

    So Floyd was only really the boss of his career for 7 fights, from November 2006, to present please explain to me exactly how Floyd cherry picked when he has some of the best fighters in the sport at the time on his resume.
     
  2. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    Great, another ***** thread, about an issue that has been discussed and beat into the ground monotonously.

    Yes, Mayweather has some great wins, and has fought many great fighters. He is ultra talented, and has a legitimate claim as being the greatest defensive fighter in history. Many will disagree, my point is that a strong case could be made for him in that sense. He is a great tactician, and has had tremendous longevity due to his incredible defense, and impeccable work ethic.

    Yes, Mayweather did not fight some of the fighters he should have, such as when he turned down a career high payday against Margarito in 2006, for $8 million. The fight with Pacquiao wasn't made, which both share blame for, and he should have fought Cotto much earlier. There are others, but I am just speaking of more recent times... Baldomir is one of the worst champions of all time, his claim to fame is beating Judah, so that's not really a win to brag about.

    The *****s claiming he is the GOAT, has fought all of the best challenges out there etc are wrong.

    The *******s claiming all his victories are cherry picks, and that he is just a hype job are also wrong.

    Usually when you have two contradicting sides to a story, the truth lies in the middle, and this case is no different.

    You will never have a rational discussion making a thread that is biased like this one, it will just turn into a ***** vs ******* thread, can we stop beating this dead horse already?

    Oh and FYI, I'm a huge Mayweather fan, I'm just not enamored with him like you *****s are, it's one unhealthy obsession you guys have. He is a top 50 ATG without a doubt, but is nowhere near being the greatest of all time in his respective weight classes, plain and simple.
     
  3. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Did you create this thread to convince the doubters or convince yourself?:think
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Done to death topic....Any objective boxing fan already knows this
     
  5. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Oscar top 10 p4p when he fought Floyd???come on man do your research
     
  6. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was going to read the toughest parts, but I'm on vacation today. Maybe when the list gets a little older or another list beats some of it up, I'll get around to it.
     
  7. cyrax99

    cyrax99 The Greatest Full Member

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    Yeah Oscar had lost 2 of his previous 4 fights before he fought Floyd, so I find it hard to believe he was ranked top 10 too. His victories were over Mayorga, and Sturm, the last of which the majority believe to have been a huge robbery. Arguably he lost 3 out of his last 4, and a win over Mayorga doesn't mean much at all.
     
  8. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The JMM line is great. It basically reads "Yeah, he was a lightweight and yeah, Floyd blew off the catchweight, but it's ok because I'm a *****."
     
  9. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you're a Floyd fan, why do you keep spouting the same lies as *******s and other haters. Why do peopl keep saying he turned down a career high 8million dollar payday against Margarito in 2006, and conveniently forget that he instead, fought the lineal champ Baldomir in 2006 for 8MILLION.
     
  10. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It basically reads, Floyd has a 3 or 4lb advantage, he's a bully. Floyd's opponents have 13, 14 20lbs and its fair.
     
  11. ashl3y72

    ashl3y72 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    may's win over future ww champ JMM looks better by the day
     
  12. kimonerz

    kimonerz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kind of unsure here but wasn't Cotto, Margarito and Pacquiao all under TOP RANK at the time where fans wanted to see them fight Mayweather.

    If this was the case, I have absolutely NO blame to Mayweather.

    If this ISN'T the case, then Mayweather is able to be perceived as ducking them.

    Except the Pacquiao dispute of course, because both teams were to blame for that... Although, I mostly blame Bob!
     
  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Margs, Cotto, and manny were all Top Rank. Cotto's first fight free from Top Rank was... versus Floyd.

    Floyd and pac are both to blame.

    Floyd has a strong resume.

    /thread
     
  14. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  15. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I enjoy watching Floyd, there's no doubt he's one of the best in this era; BUT you cannot deny that he's been VERY cautious with that 0 of his.