Boxing Scoring FAQ and Discussion

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  1. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey, IB - Don't you know boxing fans are all cab drivers & construction workers? We don't use big words like "sagacious" around here! :lol:


    - And we don't eat quiche. Heck we should even know how to SPELL quiche.



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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Is that like when air gets passed out of a va-jay-jay? :barf
     
  3. I scored this round 10-9 for Intentional "The Sage" Butt. :hat
     
  4. gashalasha7

    gashalasha7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If the ref calls a knockdown, and you as the judge do not believe it was a knockdown, do you have to score the knockdown anyway?
     
  5. Most pro judges score the knockdown anyway. I have seen cards reflect no knockdown though so I believe as a judge, it is at your discretion.
     
  6. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Does anyone know why or if there was an explanation given for why one judge scored round nine of the first Ward/Gatti fight 10-7 to Ward?

    Was it just an error or is there some logic to it?
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    It's conceivable for it to have been a conscious decision reached through logical means and not a mistake.

    In this case, the judge (I think it was Weisfeld) would have needed to see the 9th as being so one-sided as to already warrant the rare non-KD 10-8 scoring...with a knockdown on top of that making it 10-7.
     
  8. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is the only logical explanation for it but you would think there would be more examples of it happening surely a round like Vasquez/Marquez RD12 from the third fight would warrant a 10-7 round.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    Absolutely could've been, yes. It's in the individual judge's discretion.

    I think sometimes judges when they were already leaning toward a KD-free 10-8 (which is pretty rare to begin with) might feel a bit self-conscious dropping a three-point swing if a knockdown happens and might just roll it all together as 10-8 even knowing they would've scored it the same w/o a KD.

    So I think we don't see it often because not many judges have Weisfeld's cojones of being willing to stick their necks out and march to a unique drum beat.
     
  10. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True.

    Do you ever score 10-7 rounds when doing your RBR threads?
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :think I can't recall a time offhand, but I wouldn't refrain from doing so if it seemed appropriate. :good

    (that is, if my decision had already been made to score it 10-8 due to sheer domination and then in the waning seconds a KD was scored I wouldn't hesitate to expand it with the extra point)
     
  12. There were some debatable rounds in Donaire vs. Rigondeaux. Anyone have any analysis?
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Is this wrong:

    when scoring fights I score on a rounds basis then deduct points from my final tally.

    For example say I have it 7-5 to A. B scores a kd and A has 2 points deducted for fouls I'd score

    115-113 -> 114-113 -> 112-113 thus fighter B wins.

    I never score even rounds either btw, I always make a judgement but allow leeway for close fights.
     
  14. That method is totally fine for casually scoring from your couch. If you are trying to get a job as an official judge, you need to score each round and you need to start scoring even rounds even and not just picking a winner.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I do notice that despite the misconception, judges do often score rounds even.

    I'm fairly happy acknowledging a close round and that then allows a degree of subjectivity were I can say "yeah I see how it can be scored for him".

    I enjoy the debate that close fights bring, I just wanted to know if my method can give legitimate cards.