Why are Heavyweight contenders getting older?

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  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heavyweight contenders are getting older for sure, why?
    I did a quick check of the top ten Heavyweights from 1892, 1922 ( Matt Donnellon's ratings:good and 1952, 1982 and 2012 (Rings year end ratings) with the following results;
    1892-30.1
    1922-28.1
    1952-29.0
    1982-27.2
    2012-32.8
    Big leap in 2012 but it's been the trend for the past decade or so-thoughts?
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    More preservatives in the food. And bedroom sets made of Tupperware materials.
     
  3. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your avatar is very apt!
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    A combination of factors.

    The less hectic schedule of modern fighters means that they take longer to learn their trade and don't burn out as quickly.
     
  5. masterold

    masterold Active Member Full Member

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    I was going to make a similar thread for fighters in general but didn't get round to it.

    I thought it was interesting in the Donaire Rigondeaux fight that they're 30 & 32 but being billed as great young fighters. Seems like in previous era's fighters involved in super fights were in their mid to late 20's although sometimes in their early 20's.

    Sorry to hijack the thread.
     
  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not at all. you make sense. Jersey Joe, Archie and Fitz were called freaks for been top class in their mid to late thirties but now most heavyweights seem to peak mid thirty. I mean Wlad is, what, 37 and Vitali 41 both should be way past their best(and probably are) but there is hardly a decent heavyweight less than 30-unless you fancy Fury?
    Is it all the years in the Amature game which also might explain why Solis and Povetkin made such rapid progress and then stalled?
     
  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    its weight related. its glove related. its also related to the absence of the 15 round limit.
     
  8. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's obviously very different factors in this that have already been mentioned so I'll add in the fact that boxing doesn't seem to be as big as it once was. It's also a testament that a good game plan, preparation, boxing skills and fundamentals will beat speed and power more times than not
     
  9. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    If you look at all the fights of heavyweight champions and their opponents opponents, only 2% of all fights where scheduled for 13+ rounds.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Top level performers in many sports are getting older, or performing better into old age. Better medical care, better planned careers... "supplements"...

    Take American football... If Adrian Peterson has the same injury in 1970, his career is over. In 2011 he comes back after a few months and is the best player in the league. Reason? Better surgical procedures and better rehab science (HGH?)...
     
  11. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's the Rocken Roll age, we aren't old we just won't allow it, many, many of us are young in mind, life style and appearance, fitness and health. it's just as much of the Social psyche as was the MENTALLY Fit, tough as teak, No Nonsense past.

    Plus as previously mentioned Fight Scheduals, Time to fully recover from any injury or health issues, MONEY to afford that luxuary and again less fights and with much less often it doesn't weed out guys who might have been weeded out long ago, nor does it cause them to burn out and grow old all of a sudden.

    in Short Easier, Healthy times and Wealth, NO Hunger!
     
  12. gentleman jim

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    Better nutritional/medical science enables athletes to compete for longer periods of time and Boxers are included. However, the fact that fighters today don't fight as often as thier predecessors, fight fewer rounds and often (at the highest level anyway) get to handpick thier opponents thus avoiding any potential danger/damage while making the most money, helps to elongate thier careers. Bring back 15-20 round fights, make fighters fight often not once every year and make them fight top level competition more often and we wouldn't see as many older fighters ruling the roost. After losing to Marciano in a brutal fight, Archie moore, who was in his late thirties went on to fight 43 more times! That equals a modern fighter's career for chrissakes! I'm not saying there aren't any good fighters out there, nor are there fighters who haven't paid thier dues, but it's not the same anymore. Maybe I'm starting to show my age.
     
  13. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still you would imagine that there are John l's, Tysons, Ali's, Louis's, Pattersons, McVea's, Jeffries out there?
    Maybe to answer myself, they are all in the Am ranks?
     
  14. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heavyweights are getting bigger. The pace is slowing while the punches get bigger. Setting a high pace as a young pup might do you good for a while until you're taken out on a stretcher.

    A veteran who might struggle with a high pace can now use his experience to dodge the real bullets like you saw Tony Thompson do against David Price recently.

    The heavy class is getting more heavy.