Haye would beat Fury and make it look easy. If Fury can't come back from that loss and just declines into nothingness from there then the win over Fury wouldn't be a great win for Haye.
Berliner you seeing the pattern yet-Valuev wasnt an easy fight or weak fight like you believe and in no way would Fury be his best win. Would you rate Fury better than Charr?
I just don't understand why ppl think that Pulev is gonna fight anyone in the top 10. I mean, Adamek, maybe, Potvetkin maybe, Haye maybe, but Adamek is an EASY KO win for Pulev. Potvetkin is 60/40 in Pulevs favor and he could sneak the kiddie title. Haye would obviously pay the biggest purse. Would be a 50/50 fight, but wouldnt be a smart fight for either guy. Haye makes more $$$ vs a personality like Fury or Charr, and Pulev makes more dough to invoke his mandate with Wlad. Pulev would be wise to fight a Szpilka type, just a name to pad his record and keep him warm until he gets his payday vs Wlad.:think
people might not think david hayes a great fighter but he`s an exciting fighter, love him or hate him he gets no credit from any of his previous wins so would tyson furey get credit for beating a hype job lol??? i think its the most interesting non heavyweight title fight out there..
Fury is a good heavyweight (not great but still good). I gues Fury would win... although Charr has the power to drop him or even KO him. (If featherfisted Cunningham can do it, a big guy like Charr can do it also). But at the end I think Fury would win. Also dont understand me wrong Valuev in his prime was much better than Fury. Yet Valuev was over his prime. He had NOT one great/good fight after Chagaev beat him. It is funny how people rate the win over Valuev high. He was crap at that time yet nobody of you guys saw Valuevs last fights so you think he was any goodatsch! He looked terrible in all of them. ESPECIALLY againt Holyfield and Haye. He was not good anymore. But again this shows you how weak Hayes resume is when guys like Valuev and Ruiz (old and over theire prime when Haye fought both) are seen as his best wins. Fury would be a very good win for Haye and in my opinion his best win. But again you have another opinion. And I can understand why you think Valuev was a good win. Valuev is a good name, was "champion" and a big ass guy. But thats really it. As a boxer he was not good when Haye fought him This is not hard to understand. It says all when Haye was winning this close fight with throwing 11 punches per round. Valuev fought like he fought Holyfield... Terrible.
That´s crap what you tell us. Now we know who knows nothing. Did you even see some of Valuev´s fights before Chagaev (as you stated that was his prime) ? Larry Donald beat him even more clearly than Holyfield, didn´t get the decision though. Dominguez gave him all kind of problems and Bidenko had him almost out in just his 4th fight in their last round. Valuev always was the same. Hard to beat cause of his physique. But always in trouble with someone who could move. BTW Liakhovich was maybe one of his best fights and that happened after Chagaev.
So you agree with me that Valuev was crap and not good. Especially when HAye fought him. Just a big ass guy. Nothing more. And yes Valuev was in his prime when he faced Chagaev. He was not when he faced Haye. And beating Liakhovich is nothing to be proud of. I dont rate him high so it is not a good fight to beat this guy. Especially after he got stopped by Briggs. I dont know what you are talking about... I basically have the same opinion like you. Why are you talking about Donald? Was I talking about him? Did I say Valuev beat him? Or Dominguez? Strange you talk about different things. BTW. I read that Fury is in negotiations with Pulev...
I did´t say Valuev was crap. He wasn´t a good boxer though. But his size and physique would make him hard to beat for anyone. What i pointed out for you is that Valuev wasn´t any worse after the Chagaev-fight, he was always the same and when he looked shitty against Haye and Holyfield it was cause of their game plans, not cause he was out of his prime. Using a lot of movement was always trouble for Valuev. Hehe, nice one. First you say he was crap, than you state, in his prime he was better than Fury. I get the feeling you don´t know what you talk about.