Round 7 is the strategy you need to employ to beat Mayweather

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  1. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you can impose and force yourself on Mayweather then its your best chance. The problem is employing this tactic for twelve rounds. He is still very good on the inside but he isn't able to pick you off as easily and beat you up. At range Floyd picks you apart and you can't afford to take that option. He is constantly measuring from the outside. On the inside he can't measure and think as much. The problem is there isn't really any great inside fighters around right now.

    That's why Castillo had a lot of success v Mayweather. Also Castillo>Hatton.
     
  2. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    FLoyd is a great inside fighter, this has been proven over and over again.

    Hatton KO4 Castillo.
     
  3. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well if your somebody like robert whos at least a class or two below floyd , that's really all you can do - and thats what he should have done form the beginning. But he barely put in an effort in that fight.

    Castillo did a mix of boxing and inside fighting. Same for Cotto. Hatton was just reckless, mindless and wore himself out.
     
  4. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the best way to beat Mayweather is to knock him out before the 3rd round. He is pretty vulnerable in the 1st and 2nd rounds as he is figuring you out. Obviously knocking him out in 2 rounds is very difficult but that's what I think.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    No fighters in this era of Mayweathers 'reign' can deploy a 'force/impose' yourself gameplan onto him

    He is simply one of the best of this era

    Past and future fighters might have stood a better chance at beating him.

    Really now it's just Mayweathers choice whether he wants to secure himself in history by facing someone like Canelo or Pacquiao. F8ck money... what's the superiority complex behind needing to get more of a share than Pac... That's one thing Mayweather lacks willing to fight anyone anywhere like alot of oldschool fighters.
     
  6. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guerrero should have employed this tactic but as you stated; Guerrero is not on the same level as Floyd, and Floyd is even still better on the inside than Guerrero. Still, you're better off on the inside than at range.

    Pressure fighters/Inside fighters have had the most success in the past. That is the only blueprint to being able to beat him. You need to really fight at a high intensity and be prepared to go into deep waters to have a chance. You can't give Floyd the leverage and time to think. You need to be absolutely relentless and force yourself on him. The more you play a chess match/bide your time, the more Floyd is weighing you up for his next shot.
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So my game plan is to wait for Mayweather to take a breather? Is he going to take every round off? I wouldn't make my game plan against anyone based on the idea my oppoent will take every round off.
     
  8. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is one of the best in the last 20 years. You can't dispute how good Floyd is; he's proven time and time again by schooling solid opposition.

    Still. Floyd is not unbeatable. Very few have had success but some have came close.
     
  9. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No you whilst your on the inside; you make Mayweather work. Make him feel uncomfortable and smother him as much as you possibly can on the inside. Don't give him an inch. Constantly walk him down and be in his face for every round. It's a big ask, but this the kind of strategy you'll need to implement to get success. Don't let Mayweather 'breathe' for a minute.
     
  10. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    To beat Mayweather, I'm increasingly of the opinion that you need a heavy-hitting ******* with an iron chin and just run him down, take five to give one, until you knock him out.

    I'm not sure he can be out-slicked or out-speeded. I don't think you can even Castillo I him any more -- he's a better fighter than back then. You need some Duran-Foreman hybrid with Hagler's beard.
     
  11. o_money

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    The blue print to beating floyd is having physical advantages or skills that can match his own. Like hand speed. Defense. Foot speed. Size. Reach. The basic stuff you check out on boxrec when you start analyzing a fight.
     
  12. haglerwon

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    Trouble is, that combination at that level is rarer than finding some bloke who might just improbably pull off a ground war.
     
  13. PetethePrince

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    Re-watched Hatton-Floyd recently. Hatton actually did very well considering how poorly Cortez was in the right.

    You have to double the jab on your way in. Floyd counters the jab with a right, but you have to feint, double it up. Floyd back straights up in a line still and Roberto caught him sometimes, but rarely did capitalize on it. Mayweather is and will always be more defensively-oriented of a fighter. He doesn't want to get hit if he doesn't have to. He's a very reactive fighter. You have to use his defense-mindedness against him. That's what Castillo did. Feint, pick your spots, change the angle, fight on the inside, counter occasionally, especially when he throws that counter right hand one at a time. You must capitalize on the few moments, you have to throw combinations, and you can't let him pick you apart from a distance. Duran would give him fits and totally impose himself from a physical and technical standpoint. You can't just bum-rush. You need elements of good technical, smart boxing, with equalizing ability (Speed, power, stamina).

    A good jab and bigger more physically imposing fighter also generally helps. Like Oscar for example.
     
  14. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Difference is the ref will break up all inside fighting time and again in every Mayweather fight. As soon as the action turns inside the ref will come in and force stop it. Like when the ref pulled Guerrero off when Guerrero started getting his shots off on the inside. Why does that never happen to Floyd when he's elbowing, pinning arms under his own? The other guy finally gets the inside upper hand and the ref instantly throws his own body in there.....It's fishy man, but it's every ****en Floyd fight.
     
  15. Manfred

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    Yeah right. all round seven did was turn into round eight and you know what happened in round eight. Adjustment.