Ali ...Overated ?

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  1. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    I honestly think he was, he copied his style off SRR, he got beaten by Norton and IMO he lost the later fight against Norton, he got beaten by Frazier, ass whooped by Holmes (he should have stayed retired), he beat mainly bums and in todays era would have been a small heavyweight.

    He was a serial adulterer, took the **** out of Frazier for looking like a "gorilla" etc etc

    Joe Louis,Tyson, Lewis and Holyfield would have wrecked him.
     
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  2. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

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    True Tyson/Lewis would have beaten him but his resume is undeniable.

    Bonavea
    Patterson
    Foreman
    Frazier
    Liston
    Quarry
    Shavers
    etc etc etc

    His resume puts him on top of the HW division. H2H not so much.
     
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  3. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    Joe Bugner took him 15 rounds, Henry Cooper floored him (Dundee bought time).

    Frazier would have Won the last fight if his corner had waited another 20 seconds (Ali wanted to quit, Fraziers corner quit first).

    Quarrey and Shavers were not top notch HW fighters were they in reality.
     
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  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's see...How do I respond to this...:think

    Ah. Got it.

    Louis was a coke addict also a serial adulterer, Tyson was a convicted ****** who tried to break someone;s arm and bit off the ear of a suspected steroid user (Holyfield).

    Plus...

    Every fight that you mentioned occurred post layoff. He beat Frazier twice and Norton twice...

    And...

    The fact that you mentioned the Holmes fight as proof of his deficiency as a fighter, when in fact he was already suffering from Parkinson's and seriously depleted by weight loss drugs is an indication that YDKSAB.

    So...in other words...

    :****off
     
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  5. Ivan Drago

    Ivan Drago You Will Lose. Full Member

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    By overrated what do you mean exactly, where would you rate him all time p4p?
     
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  6. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    This ****in thread again.

    The mother****er took 8 rounds of punishment from prime George Foreman and then KO'd him. That right there speaks to his greatness aside from all the other fights Ali ever had. I don't give a **** where he supposedly copied his style from according to you. Ali is at least #2 GOAT.

    Not overrated, not in the least. :-(
     
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  7. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's overrated to the max. It's funny how if someone claims he's the greatest of all time over and over and over again people begin to believe it. The man didn't even throw body shots and got his his ass-whooped by a man with only 7 pro fights. He's not even a top 20 ATG.

    People say he was out of prime in the Spinks fight. He was but not so out of prime he was going to lose to such a lesser fighter. He didn't Tran, took Spinks lightly and got his ass beat.
     
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  8. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    :deal

    OP is a ****.
     
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  9. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    Another ****.

    YDKSAB, sorry.

    And to think I tried to help your troll ass.
     
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  10. PowerBack

    PowerBack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He is the greatest HW of all time.
    He has beaten several HOF'ers and ATGs and has won in some of the biggest fights in the division's history. Sure, Norton gave him fits, but Norton had always been a bad matchup for Ali, he beat guys who are rated above Norton as well.
     
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  11. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here's a nice write up on Ali and his ATG standing.

    [url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1612410-muhammad-ali-why-hes-not-the-greatest[/url]
     
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  12. PowerBack

    PowerBack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, sure.. It is pretty common among boxing fans that Ali isn't the #1 ATG.
    But he is the #1 HW of all time, the only guy I think you could make a case for having a greater career, is Joe Louis.
     
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  13. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When did you help me?
     
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  14. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    We have all seen Muhammad and Larry :deal

    IMO he lost to Norton twice.

    He is overated, would have beaten Joe Louis, Marciano, Dempsey, Tyson, Lewis the Klitschko's even.

    Foreman would have probably Won a rematch.
     
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  15. LoRd_inFamousX1

    LoRd_inFamousX1 Lord of the Square Rings Full Member

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    He is no doubt an ATG but not the greatest of All Time like people say
     
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