Ali ...Overated ?

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  1. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    You're saying the boxers I''ve listed are not better than Ali p4p, glad you quit the thread ...you know **** about boxing.
     
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  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    wow, he lost to norton 11 years after he turned pro. after he was in forced retirement/exile for 3 1/2 years.
    he destroyed 2 of the most feared champs ever in foreman and sonny liston when he was a huge under dog.
    he would have beat the **** out of lewis, louis, tyson. nice try hater
     
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  3. SUGAR J

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    Like he beat the **** out of Trevor Berbick, Leon Spinks and an average Joe Bugner.
     
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  4. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you ******ed? Tyson? Mike Tyson or Tyson Fury? Mike Tyson is invincible and can't lose in his prime.
     
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  5. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch Thats ****ing bull****, Ali had no quitting in him you idiot, he didnt want to quit against Holmes when he should not have even pass medical test let alone fight...
     
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  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    douglas knocked him out in his prime dummy
     
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  7. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Not as a heavyweight anyway.

    Never mind anything outside of the ring or his fame - nobody in heavyweight history has a resume to match Muhammad Ali.

    Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Jack Johnson all have long periods of dominance to their name, Marciano has the undefeated record, Foreman's two careers proved his greatness, but none of them have the depth and quality of wins that Ali does in my opinion.

    If somebody is putting him as P4P the greatest ever then yes I'd say that's overrated because there are a few guys from the lighter weights that were obviously better but you can't convince me that he isn't the greatest heavyweight of all time, especially when you consider he was past his prime in the 70's and still managed to win against Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Shavers, Young, Quarry etc
     
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  8. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    Yes I know this, shows what an idiot he was then to fight Holmes then doesn't it, his performance was shocking and inept.

    Alot of fighters have carried on with injuries and not quit, alot of fighters have taken beatings and not quit, it's called the fight game, it's not a tickling comp has Hatton said.
     
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  9. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since Ali is overrated tell me who at heavyweight has better wins, and not to forget his was robbed 3 of his prime years...fell free to post Alis best wins and those who have better.
     
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  10. SUGAR J

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    Liston .....1..to win the title.
    Foreman...To regain his title.

    Can't think of a third, all his fights were the same and most boring.

    Spinks beating Ali.
    Holmes....Standing Ali up the whole fight and hammering him into oblivion.
    Berbick...Beating Ali.
    Bugner outboxing Ali for 15 rounds.
    Frazier knocking Ali down and busting his face up and retaining his World Title.

    Mike Tyson 85-89 would have killed Ali, Tyson was the best heavyweight of alltime during this period.

    ETC ETC ETC
     
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  11. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:patsch So you base fighter on his losses late in his career, than Tyson is a bum since he lost to ****ing Kevin Mcbride:rofl See your theory doesnt work...
    Alone these 2 wins **** all over Tysons resume!!!
     
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  12. jazza

    jazza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :plzdie
     
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  13. SUGAR J

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    Tyson in his prime would have beaten, Ali, Liston, Frazier and Foreman....by KO :deal
     
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  14. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think everyone goes through an "Ali was overrated" phase...
     
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  15. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah sure but lost to Buster:rofl:lol:
    I must give away one secret to you, Mike would lose before ever entering the ring with Ali...
     
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