Ranking on the eye test.

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles
    Jung-Koo Chang
    Luis Manuel Rodriguez

    Are three less obvious names I think deserve a mention here for sure
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's interesting because that's the trade off you make, the lower the quality of opposition the less amazing the performance will look.

    I think it's better to show them winning against the best opponent they beat, where possible.

    Shame we dont have the pep - saddler rematch.
     
  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Many fans call Cal-Lacy a modern masterpiece.;)
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Exactly, it was a great performance but against a less than great fighter. When we saw him in with a great fighter we saw a very debatable decision that could go either way against hopkins.
     
  5. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Armstrong is up there, see Armstrong vs Ross. He's a mini Joe Frazier without having to worry about heavyweight power.

    But of course the correct answer, which is too mainstream and modern for most, is Roy Jones Jr
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Charles vs valentino 1949
    charles vs marshall 1946


    pep vs walton 1945
    pep vs famechon
    pep vs saddler
     
  7. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not so sure that Ali vs Foreman should be used to justify Ali's greatness on film. He does so much technically wrong there, and if that was the only fight you had to go on, i dont think you would rate either fighter that highly.

    Ali Liston, i think was probably Ali's best filmed performance. Outclassing and all time great fighter, Blinding speed and offence. I think this is as good a performance as anyone has ever put on, if you assume Liston was as good as we (mostly) all think he was.
     
  8. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AS for one that i havent seen yet, how about Gene Tunney, he is technically very good on film, particularly in the dempsey series where he showed every characteristic needed to be classified as a great, even if Dempsey was obviously past prime.
     
  9. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    1. Robinson
    2. Jones
    3. Duran
    4. Armstrong
    5. Ali
    6. Pep
    7. Whitaker
    8. Leonard
    9. Hearns
    10. Hagler

    If it is the eye test then it's the eye-test based on the fighter's best, not worst of days. Otherwise you're factoring record in inadvertent. Really trying to split the criteria apart is tough because it's really rarely mutually exclusive. Hard to split Pep & Ali.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The Eye Test is bogus, man-loving tripe.

    I test on effectiveness, W's...

    That said, Tony Tubbs had some dandy, subtle hips.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Oh we're doing our own list not ranking yours. Um, yeah well I'd definitely have Charles up there on the list near Ali & Tyson. I'd bump Hagler off for maybe Tyson.

    I had an all shitty list where I did what you're talking about. Can't remember where it is or what I had.

    Agree with Seamus too. The eye-test is a very tricky thing. Like the super religious girl gone slut. It's just very complicated.

    *Edit* Burley does well on the eye test too.
     
  12. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Holyfield.

    Mayweather for sure.


    Lots of fighters look about as good as it's possible to look. imo.
     
  13. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ricardo Lopez.

    He just never seemed to make a single mistake, let alone multiple mistakes the way most guys do over the course of a bout. Add to that, he probably left the smallest window of opportunity for opponents I've seen. He simply gave away nothing.
     
  14. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    If I was ranking on visuals then Chang, Marcel, Tyson LMR & Kalambay would make my top ten. Roy Jones Vs Toney too.

    And probably Saldivar Vs Sugar Ramos too.
     
  15. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I actually think Floyd doesn't look all that impressive against all his best opponents, except Corrales. And I don't rate Corrales.

    Castillo II, Judah, Oscar and Cotto; if I was taking Floyd against his best opponents he likely wouldn't make a top '100 fighters on film' list.