Look let's be realistic here. Wlad/Vitali/Lewis would dominate any era of HW boxing

Ok.

Make sure you think before you post next time.

 

A PEAK Lennox Lewis couldn't even "dominate" an old, shopworn Holyfield in 2 consecutive tries. And if you look up the press row scores in their 2nd fight, MOST had Holyfield winning by a 8-4/7-5 margin, which is about the same margin of victory that a PRIME Holyfield beat a 43 year old Larry Holmes by.

Speaking of which, the 40+ version of Holmes has superior outings against just about every single common opponent that him & Lewis have faced. And every single time, Holmes fought better versions of those common opponents, only with superior results.

Lewis in his fight against Mercer, just barely managed to squeek by him in a life & death struggle. While a 42 year old Holmes toyed with an undefeated Mercer over the course of 12 and won by several rds.

McCall gets rid of Lewis in 2 rds... but just a few months afterwards, the exact same version of McCall needed a late rds rally in order to win by the skin of his teeth against a 46 year old Larry Holmes.

I think it's fair to deduce from this that Holmes, in his early-to-mid 40's is superior to ANY version of Lewis and would probably walk thru Lewis's resume with less losses... in his 40's.

Would a 40+ year old Larry Holmes dominate any era?

I rest my case.

And Wlad & Vitali... LOL...

...just...

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Not even worth entertaining.

 

The point of this thread is that size matters so they would dominate smaller HWs but they couldn't KO a blown up MW. Great reflexes? Byrd was a moving target it's hard to hit someone who isn't so top heavy they have no legs.

 

:good

 

O.K. Pal

 

I don't know anything about Mann or Pastor, I have limited knowledge of Sharkey, Max Baer, Schmelling and Braddock, and I know a little bit about Joe Louis.

My idea was good in theory, but we need some knowledgeable posters on here, that can give a more in depth opinion than myself.

I think I'm going to agree with you on this, but Joe Louis could really crack. But you'd have to assume that he'd get limited, if any opportunities to find their chins.

 

This "blown up MW" was about 2 inches taller and over 20-30 lbs heavier than Marciano............. What's to say about Marciano then? A blown up LW?

IMO he was much better defensively than Rocky too, and he nearly lost every round to Klits in 3 fights only to be saved by an injury in one and KO'd badly in another.

 

What you're point? He was a MW who put on weight to fight in the HW divison.

Marciano never let his opponent get the offensive edge,apart from one fighter who he ended up KOing. So if you think he was better defensively Marciano was never put in that situation..Good point good point..

 

When Byrd wanted to go to lhw it turned out to be a dehydration fiasco.

He is anything but a "mw".

If Byrd was a mw, Archie Moore was a welter, Walcott was a mw, Schmeling was a mw.
Should I go on?

 

It's not just their size and ability, it's the dedication and application they have as champions. Too many guys of old have let the partying side takeover and got old overnight, not these guys.

 

You also think Foreman was poisoned in Zaire.

Good point. Going down in weight is the same as going up....especially for a man whos been HW for how long

Extraordinary.

 

What has that do to with anything in this topic?