Muhammad Ali 1974 v Vitali Klitschko 2004

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  1. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A few people can take a punch like Foreman but there's no way who can as much punishment in a fight like Foreman. No one.

    Ali has fought a lot better of class of fighter then Vitali. Only level of fighter Vitali fought was Lennox and even then Lennox was past it amongy other things.

    Ali by KO
     
  2. chancery

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    honestly. VITALI K would have beaten a 1974 ALI fairly easily. there is just no way ali wins that. in his prime ALI would have trouble. look at the styles. tall , long jab, great POWER, great CHIN and defense. VItali K probaly would have beaten a prime ALI too. Vitali will jab and stalk ALI and would land the meaningful bombs and win a UD in any ALI era. bad match up for ALI. i can only think of 2 HWs that COULD possibly beat Vitali in history. ALI isn't one of them.
     
  3. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    V.Klitschko by UD. Longer reach will bamboozle Ali. Ali cannot hurt or tire Klitschko out. Both have high ring IQs so Ali will not be able to utilize rope a dope strategy in this one.
     
  4. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Foreman was dehydrated and further dried out from the heat where they were fighting.

    He didn't have the chin he had in his second career.
     
  5. heavy_hands

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    vitali 2004 beats ali 74 by decision, horrible style for this static version of ALI, prime ali wins by decision in a competitive fight(saying another thing is simply because you are a biased fan of ali)
     
  6. chancery

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    >. how does a prime ALI win? explain your position, look at the style matchup. ALI loses in any time period to Vitali K.
     
  7. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    prime ali wins because his footwork was miles better, he was much faster, ,and he would make vitali look a slow robot, ali was tougher mentally, and his reach was as long if not a bit longer than vilai´s, ali would outpoint him
     
  8. chancery

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    Ali reach wasn't longer and he was giving a lot of weight.Ali beats any puncher but he would have to attack VI. VK ISnt foreman. I don't see Ali landing anything consistent. In the fight.he was insanely fast but against K that wouldn't matter because. Of his jab size power chin. VK would stalk and pick his spots and Ali would have to cut him to win IMO.styles make fights
     
  9. The Spider

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    The 1967 version of Ali beats the 2004 Vitali Klitschko easily - goes almost without saying.

    Will have to think far harder about the other scenario :think

    In a nutshell though, the 1974 version was still cagey and good enough to beat Foreman & Frazier - so I'd go Ali.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    For those banking on a cut stoppage win for Ali, you should know that this only happened once in Klitschko's career and that cut was caused by a man who he was slugging with rather than boxing.. And that other guy also had more power behind that perfectly placed shot than Ali would have had..
     
  11. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yea the only time he fought a ATG he got wasted. Good point.

    Ali gave Liston a beating and Liston is tougher,thicker skin,faster,better feet,harder jab then Vitali.

    Ali might not hit as hard as Lennox but he lands more often,quicker hands,way quicker reflexes,quicker feet..its lights out for any HW bar 1 or 2
     
  12. The Spider

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    A cut might save Vitali from receiving further damage from Ali, but it's hardly something Ali would need in order to get the win :lol:
     
  13. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Are you guys even serious? I've even seen some people here saying that Jack Dempsey (yes that guy from 1920s) would beat Wladimir Klitschko. Also with all these "predictions" you look silly, honestly.
     
  14. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    prime ali never faced foreman, and yes, vitali was not foreman, george was stronger , more aggressive and harder puncher, i agree that vitali had a harder style for ali, but you must watch crish byrd vs vitali
     
  15. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I "predict" that Vitali breaks every bone in Ali's face since 200lb Norton was able to break Ali's jaw. See how easy it was.