Vladimir Klitschko Now has a win loss record of 60-3 with 51 KO's 63 fights Jack Dempsey was 61-6 (50 KO's) upon retiring 71 fights w/l only Joe Louis was 66-3 (52 KO's upon retiring 69 fights Ali was 56-5 (37 KO's) upon retiring 61 fights Larry Holmes was 69-6 (44 KO's) upon retiring 75 fights George Foreman was 76-5 (68 KO's ) upon retiring 81 fights Marciano was 49-0 (43 KO's) upon retiring Lennox Lewis was 40-2 (32 KO) 42 fights w/l Vitali Klitschko is 45-2 (41 KO) 47 fights so far Mike Tyson was 50-6 (44 KO's) 56 fights upon retiring Evander Holyfield 44-10 (29 KO) Joe Frazier 32-4 (27 KO) 36 fights w/l upon retiring Vladimir has quite an impressive title resume besides he just broke 60 wins any thoughts on his impressive resume and if anyone else should be added to compare ...seems like we have a champ with a few more fights left and heading towards a great finish but its not easy fighting all the top guys rated by the various orgs. any thoughts on this and the comparisons
I think Johnson at 80(45)-13 114 total belongs up there for comparisons sake and apparent awful math (hell of a lot of draws and no contests, but I see you haven't included those up there) Also Lennox Lewis had 41 wins. Wladimir has carved out a fine record. As well as you really can in this particular era of heavyweights.
As they say with cars, there is a difference between highway miles and city miles. Ali, Holyfield and Lewis definitely had city miles on their odometers. Marciano, mostly highway. Wlad is somewhere in between. Still, a great career as those things can be done in that division..
If Marciano is highway Vlad has only started his car. He wouldn't even be champ is Vitali was not his brother. Marciano KO'd everyone that was anyone that was round at that time..Wlad can't even be in the same sentence as that.
The thing that Wlad does is to put guy's in the scrapheap. When he's done with them, there sure isn't much left. And that goes back to his pre-championship years. Like the Schulz fight. There is a lot of destruction and the wear and tear factor fighting Wladimir is about as bad as it gets.
Remember that Wladimir had his first 23 fights in just 2 years, that's practically 1 fight every month. He wasn't beating the best guys but unlike many others who do the same he did it in a very short span
Marciano had a mere title fights in his career which was filled with beating mediocre fighters in arguably the worst HW era in history.
If all Wlad had to face was a collection of bar fighters from Providence, RI and an assortment of undersized, over the hill guys with a 100 fights each, he would have barely broken a sweat his entire career and would be 63-0 (63).
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:good I was about to answer but your answer was perfect. Back in the old days we had the big Cadillac's and Lincolns and they were large and floaty and burned a lot of fuel, these days the cars are much more conservative and fit but I think the boxing game is the opposite but I have to say the Klitschko's stand out as fit and economical and smart they dont waste there fuel but Vlad did have to learn the hard way on at least 2 occasions. Marciano for what ever was worth fought the best of his era, the larger guys were not the best because they were beaten by the number one contenders Jersey Joe beat 6"6 Hein Ten Hoff, 6"3 Ollie Tanberg, 6"4 Johnny Shkor, 6"2.5 Elmer Ray,6'3 Lee Q Murry, Charles beat 6"3 Coley Wallace, Bob Satterfield listed at 6"2, 6"2.5 Billy Gilliam, 6"2.5 Elmer Ray, and Archie Moore beat 6"2 Bob Baker, Beat 6'3 Nino Valdes 2x Lastarza beat 6"3 Ceaser Brion and 6'2 Dan Bucceroni Marciano when champ fought 5 # 1 contenders, so he fought the best and even though Marciano fought men 6'4 and over 220lbs and a still somewhat danger Joe Louis at the time he was champion he fought the fighters that beat the fighters to become #1 contender in an era of 1 champion and no split titles If anyone fought city miles it was Marciano, now Vlad has been staying out of the city but to his credit, his last war was Brewster 1, Sanders and Peter 1 not to mention the run out of gas highway trip with Ross Purity but to his credit he learned from his mistakes and is fighting the way he can win not the way he could lose