The less 1m PPV for Mayweather's a lie.

based on what cletus?

 

Yeah man, I agreed with everything you wrote for the most part and just made a separate point about how casuals are so out of the loop and clueless they aren't even aware when they've got something they like right in front of them. If Abner added anything to the buyrates, it would've came from diehard boxing fans who were debating whether to buy Floyd's PPV.

 

Most of the people celebrating this news were the people claiming Mayweather Ortiz did 575k.

It'll be 900-1.1m which is a success considering no press tour and the opponent being guerrero, they don't need 1.2m buys to break even.

 

I don't care about the PPV number.What interest me is if they do lose a lot of money , how will this impact future fights on Showtime. They've put on some great NON PPV fights so far. Just 200k short and that's 12 million straight from their operation cost. That lost and future money tied to Mayweather will kill showtime boxing. It will be on par with Friday night fight.

 

do you just pull numbers out of your ass? you are no better than the guys calling the PPV a dud. :rofl

 

And 5 more of these, and it'll only get worse unless they can stem the tide with a Canelo fight, or they get Floyd to opt out. But he ain't seeing that kind of money anywhere else for those 140ers.

Of course a blown Showtime budget is killer for GBP, who have a big and expensive stable to feed, and no other premium outlet.

 

The poster is under the impression that cable/satelite distributors work for free.

 

Not you, Elliot had made a breakdown that omitted minor details like Comcast, DirecTV, Uverse, etc

 

Well I wouldn't be loving less boxing on Showtime, that would blow chunks. But the GBP part, got me there. :good

 

Projections and Guerrero does not share in PPV revenue and paid a straight $3 Million so Floyd gets all the cream.

 

900k-1.1m is the guess I've consistently said, if it's lower or higher I'll be shocked. and the 575k Ortiz thing give it a search on google, it might not have been 575k but it was almost half of the actual number produced.

Edit was 850k, looks like a similar situation to now
[url]http://www.examiner.com/article/even-bob-arum-will-speak-no-evel-on-ortiz-mayweather-ppv-tv-buy-rate[/url]

Look stop assuming I think they work for free, the 1.1-1.2 M break even suggests that at $70 per PPV that 77-84m TOTAL REVENUE is required from PPV for showtime to break even, assuming showtime around paying Mayweather and everyone else on the card at 1.1m buys they would require 46.75% appox of the PPV, so where does the other 53.25% go? the cable/sat provider and Golden Boy? You have to assume anyone working in television wouldn't be stupid enough to agree to this kind of deal.

Also stop assuming there is no other kind of income, the gate alone is 15 million, it does not cost 15 million to host a fight at the MGM so that lowers the amount required by showtime, then advertising during the PPV they don't give that away for free, so that lowers the amount required by showtime, the re run with advertising (not sure if this actually happens, not American) lowers the amount required by showtime, international rights such as whatever Boxnation paid to show it in the UK lowers the amount needed by Showtime. Starting to notice a pattern here?

Seriously to break even I'd be shocked if Showtime even need 20 million off PPV.

 

I don't know a lot about this stuff, but if the article you posted is correct... Mayweather/ Ortiz got around 850K. I really think this fight had less build up, wasn't on HBO (where there are more subscibers), Guerrero wasn't even quite as of a legit thread as Ortiz (hard to do) but Mayweather/ Guerrero could have gotten over a million? It's possible I guess, but I really doubt it.

 

430k Buys:rofl:rofl:rofl