Most overrated HW of all time.

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  1. heavy_hands

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    :patsch:nono underrated if anything
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    I didn't read the other twenty pages but any answer but golota is wrong
     
  3. devon

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    David Tua is ridiculously overrated on this forum some claim he is the hardest puncher ever and would knock out a prime Tyson. :patsch
     
  4. devon

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    No he is definitely a lock for top 10 at heavyweight .
     
  5. heavy_hands

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    actually it is a thing of styles and it is certainly possible, tua was bigger,stronger,heavier,harder puncher, tougher he had a better chin, he had better stamina, he did carry his power to the later rounds, tyson was faster, more skilled but he would not have stylistical advantage here, tua could take every combination from tyson, i could pick a peak tyson by decision outworking tua, but IF TYSON GETS ANGRY AND TRADES WITH TUA HE WOULD GET ****ED, TUA WAS NO RUDDOCK
     
  6. dyna

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    Tua dreams of fighters that come towards him, except Tyson had a good defence.
    Tua didn't like being hurt that much and he could shell up also Tyson bodyshots aren't fun.

    Also Tyson could outbox Tua if his trainer told him to, Tua would stop punching the moment someone started moving.
     
  7. Azzer85

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    The closest thing Tua fought to a Tyson like fighter was Ike. The closest thing to a Tua like fighter that Tyson fought was Ruddock, go figure.

    Tua is completely overrated, and he was not bigger than Tyson. Watch Tyson/Lewis and Tua/Lewis, Tyson is bigger than Tua.

    Tuas power is also overrated, people **** on Tysons resume, but what are Tuas best kos? Maskaev, Moorer, Izon and Ruiz?
    Moorers chin is self explanatory. Maskaev was kod by Mcall in 1 round a year before he fought Tua. Maskaev was also kod by Kirk Johnson, Lance Whitaker, Corrie Sanders, Samuel Peters and Nagy Aguilera, each one of these guys took Maskaev out much earlier than Tua did.

    Tyson could outbox and outslug Tua

    Do you think a Tyson of the Berbick fight walks stupidly headfirst into the ringpost like Tua did against Lewis?

    Tua facing Tyson is like placing a Lorry on a railway line.
     
  8. heavy_hands

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    ike was bigger,stronger and 15 pounds heavier than tyson , and his style was nothing like tyson, and tua was nothing like ruddock, horrible point.
    yes and 1980 ali was bigger than 64liston :rofl, tyson was a pork in 2002, prime vs prime tua was the bigger man, thicker frame and more robust.
    no, it is not, he is one of the hardest punchers ever for sure, shot for shot he did hit harder than tyson for sure.

    no
     
  9. Seamus

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    Dempsey, Marciano, Jeffries.

    Whitey in general.
     
  10. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, what i meant was, that the closest thing to a brawl for Tua was with Ike and the closest thing to a brawl that Tyson had was with Ruddock, thats what Tua/Tyson would be, a brawl.

    Tyson dispatched guys much bigger than Tua. And considering what stage he was in his career, he also performed better against Lewis as well.

    It may seem that way, because of the god poor opposition that Tua fought, Tysons opposition was head and shoulders above Tuas
     
  11. heavy_hands

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    s brawl against a much tougher,stronger and harder puncher, with another style different to ruddock and tua was shorter too, tyson would feel himself rare here, it was nothing similar because ike was not like tyson, he was bigger, heavier and stronger than tyson, tua was as heavy as ruddock, he did hit harder, he had a better chin, and he was stronger than ruddock.


    tyson did beat taller men than tua but not builk like tua and he never did beat a puncher like tua and much less as tough.


    tyson in his prime did beat average fighters, tomato cans, a shot larry holmes and a lhw spinks, he lost by ko at 24 against a sr nobody, he faced a past prime holyfield and past prime lewis and he lost, where is the much better career of tyson? tua destroyed michael moorer, this man did beat holyfield(tyson could never do it)
     
  12. Azzer85

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    How do u know he was stronger than Ruddock? like i said before Tua is vastly overrated, Tyson had no problem with the bigger Ruddock and guys like Bruno but hes going to struggle with the smaller turd, Tua?

    Tuas bulk helps him get his **** pushed in. Tua never even came close to smelling a fighter in the league of Tyson.

    Well in that case Holyfield sucks dick then, he lost to a guy who was Kod in one round going by your logic.
    And how would Tua fare against Douglas and Holyfield?

    Tyson unified the titles and is 2 time world champion. That same Larry Holmes would probably take Tua to school, like he did to Mercer years later :hi:
     
  13. heavy_hands

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    larry holmes 88 would get destroyed by tua, prime holmes would beat tua but tyson never faced prime holmes ,tua was harder puncher and stronger than ruddock obviously, i have eyes, tua would lose against holyfield, he would knock douglas the **** out :hi:
     
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    Maybe. :think Haye's half white ...
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I was really just kidding. I think it's a bit silly to say any champion heavyweight is overrated. They should all be rated very highly, if even for only one night.

    Marciano gets overrated only in the sense of how he would compete with elite superheavies, which he never faced. Those who rate Dempsey slightly too high only focus on about 18 months of his career. Jeffries was just a *****. **** him.