The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL @ not straight away. "I'ma wait a few months." :lol: :lol:

    I don't care if he was hiding something or not. He had a 50-50, 14-day deal on the table and went on fought Josh Clottey. That's what it is.
     
  2. JohnAnthony

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    i don't know man. who gives a **** anymore.

    I know you *****s love to ride on that 1st negotiation.

    I like to remember the following year, when both fighters were available, and Manny sent round contracts to floyd with everything agreed that was needed.
    Floyds whole team saying everything was agreed. Then floyd suddenyl turned of his phone and decided to not respond. When he did respond he said he'd lost the Urge.

    WTF was that all about!

    Or the next time when they were all available. And floyd made aload of other specific demands, like it has to be this date and venue, no negtiation. Manny agrees to it all, then out of nowhere, floyd removes the 50/50 (That everyone on here and in boxing thought was fair) and says no PPV split just a guarantee for you.

    Again WTF was that about.

    You hide behind the testing like Floyd never made this fight impossible to happen the whole time.
     
  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Manny still wanted cutoffs in the second round.
     
  4. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Its that OSDT was requested. No it wasn't all year but for training camp but was still that type of random blood and urine.

    No its not the first time that fighters had asked for testing that was not the norm of the commission.

    Tyson asked Holyfield to do pre fight testing for their fight and Holyfield said yes if he does it too and Tyson did and they fought. Tyson had never asked anyone before to do that.

    Riddick Bowe though Golota was on something and asked for pre fight testing and Golota agreed and they fought.
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    No, I just don't think TR wanted Manny losing to a guy like Mayweather.
     
  6. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    You talking about the time Floyd had said no more cut offs and team Pac still wanted a cut off. I remember that.
     
  7. JohnAnthony

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    only the 14 day tht floyd had already agreed with.

    Your asking why manny changed his mind on testing.

    I could ask you why floyd kept changin his mind.

    on cut off dates fee splits
     
  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Because Mosley and Floyd did testing with no cutoffs implemented successfully.

    Manny said he'd agree to no cut offs then when it came time to negotiate he wanted cut offs again. Koncz even admitted this.
     
  9. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Floyd's original request was full random blood and urine no cut offs. He went to 14 days to try and save the fight. When Manny walked away Floyd said manny will not get the same offer again and went back to full testing no cut offs.

    Manny had his chance and they blew it. Now Manny wants to come out and say okay I will do 14 days. Well the man told you after you walked away that you will not get any more cut offs.
     
  10. JohnAnthony

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    and what about the time when floyds whole team thought everything was agreed on and were happy with everything, but floyd deided he wanted a vacation.

    he waited till manny signed a fight, then suddenly came back out the woodwork.

    Or when floyd suddenly changed his mind on 50/50. Even though mannys ppvs had been better than floyds in the period between the 1st negotiation and this one.

    So what makes you think if manny had agreed to the 14 day cut off 1st time around, that floyd wouldnt have just come up with another reason.
     
  11. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're a ****ing idiot. Seriously. Stop making **** up. You clearly are distorting the timeline of events because you're a Pacquiao fanboy. You guys are ****ing pathetic, it's disgusting. You're like Bieber fans, ****ing teenage girls and ****.

    People have broke it down many times, and showed all the news clippings and statements date by date. You on the other hand, keep on doing what you do best, TALK OUT OF YOUR ASS. Why do you do this? Because you're like a religious nutjob with your blind devotion to anything Manny Pacquiao. That's why.

    I just broke down the timeline in a summary in an earlier post. Others have done a thorough job and posted ALL THE ARTICLES IN ORDER. Anybody who defends that is a ****ing ass hat, Pacquiao dick riding ******. Period. I don't care what excuses you ****ing make. You guys are so pathetic it makes me sick.
     
  12. JohnAnthony

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    but why, it was good enough before why not now.

    Manny even tried to get it down to 7.

    Then also why did the 50/50 no longer be ok
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    But why would Manny agree to no cut offs, then go back and need 7??
     
  14. Loudon

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    Are you just ignoring the following facts?

    1. Floyd demanded something that nobody else has ever done to fight Manny.

    2. Manny eventually gave into Floyd's testing demands, which was the BIGGEST stumbling block, and the fight still never got made, because Floyd took the **** by demanding all the PPV revenue in a fight that had realistic expectations of grossing between $200-300m.

    We've got page after page of people talking about various things, and everyone is ignoring the fact that Manny backed down, gave in, and the fight still never took place.

    Now if the fight never got made after Manny gave in, at the end, then how does anyone know whether the fight would have taken place, even if in 2009, Manny had agreed to everything?

    It's been taken as a given, that if Manny had've said "Yes, fine." then the fight would have taken place.

    But there's no EVIDENCE to support that theory.
     
  15. mrjotatp4p

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    Hell full testing was good before when team Pac agreed from the start but then they backed out and wanted cut offs. Why was that good before and not later? They all ****ed this **** up.

    Floyd could have taking the 7 days but I think he was done ****ing around and he said he was not going to change and give any more cut offs

    As for the 50/50 Floyd came out doing massive numbers with Mosley and Ortiz and felt he deserved more.

    I totally blame Bob Arum for the fight not happening this last go around bc Shaefer and everyone else was calling him and he pulled like 20 excuses as to why they could fight. Stadium, cut, didn't know who represented Floyd, jUNE WAS A BETTER TIME, and much more including the daddy of them all FalconHawk with Joe (I beat my mother****ing kids Michael, Tito, Jermain, Randy, Marlon) Jackson saying they would invest and pay for the fight. The same jOE jACKSON WHO HAS TO BORROW MONEY FROM HIS EX WIFE JUST TO LIVE.

    Floyd even had to call Manny himself when that should have never happened at all. I do believe that they could have worked the numbers out somehow.
     
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