The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I respect what you're saying.

    All I'm saying is, there's no way Manny could have said, or admitted to the fact, that the reason he negotiated, was to not back down to Floyd.

    He could never have done such a thing.

    Because if he'd have admitted that, it would have been used against him in any future negotiations.
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Yet they were able to sue Floyd and his promoters, and still try and negotiate?

    Sorry, I can't agree with this logic.
     
  3. JohnAnthony

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    i already have answered it.

    Are you gonna answer why when everything was agreed upon. Floyd Team said they were happy with everything, did floyd choose to go on vacation.

    And then why the 2nd time, when everything was a greed, did floyd choose to move the goalposts by changing the purse splits, even though manny had out performed floyd between the 2 negotiation points.

    you going to answer that one *****
     
  4. Loudon

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    But realistically, he could have only have negotiated in the first place for 2 reasons.

    1. He was trying to get under Floyd's skin.

    2. He was guilty, and needed a specific window to take PEDS.

    So, I'm asking you straight, right now.

    If you were think it was 2, How could he have done it, and what benefit would he have gained?

    They're not difficult questions to answer.

    EVERY time I ask you a question, you reply with a QUESTION.

    Why can't you answer?


    How about these:


    1. Why did it take Floyd 13 years before he wanted to clean up the sport?

    2. How is it that nobody else has had the same issues who have FOUGHT Manny?

    3. After Manny had agreed, why did Floyd want the entire PPV revenue?


    If you can't answer any of these questions, then please DO NOT reply, because there's no point.

    You're wasting my time!
     
  5. JohnAnthony

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    then floyds team said they had all this proof that pac was juicing yet, they refused to release all there own test results from past years, thus losing the law case.

    :hi:
     
  6. DeadLikeMe

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    Even if they test clean, I dont care. USADA is not reliable.

    Floyd owns USADA basically, he has them in him pocket. I am happy that Manny isnt using USADA.

    If they are not using VADA or doing testing 365 days a year, it is pointless.

    If Manny wants us to believe he is clean, he needs to do what Nonito is doing and use VADA not USADA.

    Testing for two months means nothing.

    Manny doesnt like having his blood drawn, it makes him weak.

    The last time Manny has his blood drawn before the fight, he lost to Morales.

    USADA is going to drain all his blood.

    The Commission tests are fine. No need to do USADA ,they need to use WADA

    Urine is fine, no need to test blood.

    Who does Floyd think he is? He cant dictate to Manny!

    We need a 30 day cut off with no testing! Ok, 24 days...ok 14, and that is it!

    Floyd failed three tests and USADA and GBP covered it up. Happy Manny refused to be tested by USADA.
     
  7. turbotime

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    I love Manny's fans for this. Great times.
     
  8. JohnAnthony

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    Manny Pacquiao filed a defamation suit against the Mayweathers for saying he used PEDs. Pacquiao’s attorneys heard of a rumor that Mayweather had failed not 1, not 2, but 3 drug tests in the past.
    Once Pacquiao’s lawyers got a hold of the rumors they asked for all of Mayweather’s tests going back a couple of years. Mayweather’s attorney never provided the documents. After Floyd got out of jail a settlement offer was made and that closed the case. According to Pacquiao’s lawyers the offered was greater than they anticipated.
    If you are asking yourself how Mayweather could fail three tests and no one ever find out about it, here is the explanation from [url]Max Boxing.[/url]
    Iit was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).
     
  9. JohnAnthony

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    it is strange that as soon as Mannys Lawyer asked for the results of every single Mayweather test, they settled.
     
  10. turbotime

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    Maxboxing :rofl :rofl
     
  11. Terminator_X

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    There isn't one shred of evidence or rumour that Manny has taken steriods.

    Wheras there is plenty of evidence and rumour Mayweather has taken steriods.

    The guys who have gone round accusing others of taking steriods or insisting on testing are usually the ones on steriods themselves: Lamont Peterson, Antonio Tarver etc etc...

    The simple reason Team Pac are now doing random testing is that they pretty much know MARQUEZ was juiced up to his eyeballs on steriods in their last fight together and they want to make sure no opponent in the future has that advantage over Pac again. Should they have done this years ago? definately YES but better late then never!
     
  12. LikeFatherNSon

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    So he was trying to be a *****. When people we're trying to make a fight? :lol:
     
  13. DeadLikeMe

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    Except for you know...walking out of the biggest fight of your career over...get this...drug testing.

    Manny might never have taken steroids you may be correct. I think he was juiced to the gills with EPO personally. More beneficial to an endurance sport like boxing/cycling/etc...

    Wow all this delusion. I bet you think Rigondeaux cheated too.
     
  14. Sweet Jones

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    Your arguing with the wrong people. You need to be debating experts like:

    1) Victor Conte [url](link)[/url] :

    and

    2) Don Caitlin [url](link)[/url]

    Now, that 2 experts familiar with testing telling you that a 24 day cutoff, even with unlimited urine testing, is not sufficient.

    Does this address your concerns (including post #265), or are you looking for something else?
     
  15. Loudon

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    Poor little Victor, a guy who needs to swear because not everyone is agreeing with him. :lol:

    There's nothing like been objective hey Vic?


    I'm willing to take everything on board that you've listed.

    I know what happened.

    But the thing is,

    It's ok for Floyd to make his demands in the first place, and it was ok for Floyd Snr to accuse him of being a cheat, but when Manny starts making demands, and going back on his word, you can't accept that can you?

    Nobody else has had an issue with fighting Manny?

    Have you taken that into consideration? NO!

    So lets get down to it Vic,

    Manny must have been hiding something right?

    If that's the case, please elaborate.

    I'm not saying you're wrong if you think that, I'm asking for a logical breakdown.

    If Manny specifically needed a time frame to cheat, then

    1. How would he have done it?

    2. What benefits would he have gained?
     
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