How do you view these three Ring Magazine P4P Lists

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  1. Kell Brook

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    GIAMPA (official)

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Andre Ward
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Wladimir Klitschko
    5. Abner Mares
    6. Adrien Broner
    7. Sergio Martinez
    8. Manny Pacquiao
    9. Timothy Bradley
    10. Saul Alvarez

    FISCHER (ringtv.com editor)

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Andre Ward
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Wladimir Klitschko
    5. Vitali Klitschko
    6. Sergio Martinez
    7. Manny Pacquiao
    8. Abner Mares
    9. Timothy Bradley
    10. Guillermo Rigondeaux

    ROSENTHAL (ring magazine editor)

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Andre Ward
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Wladimir Klitschko
    5. Sergio Martinez
    6. Manny Pacquiao
    7. Vitali Klitschko
    8. Timothy Bradley
    9. Abner Mares
    10. Guillermo Rigondeaux
     
  2. Kell Brook

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    The bottom 2 are reasonable
     
  3. oibighead

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    Rigo should be higher

    They are alright though


    (top one is awful)
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    I think Rosenthal has the best of the 3. Followed by Doughie, and Giampa trailing behind.
     
  5. JasonHensley

    JasonHensley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward should be number 1 IMO.
     
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    Though I don't agree 100%, I like Rosenthal the best.
     
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  8. Hands of Iron

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    Rigondeaux and Mares are both Top 5.
     
  9. jmarlow

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    i agree with the third list.
     
  10. El Lucho

    El Lucho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    all suck. vitaly, robotic as he is and old should be nowhere a top 30 p4p list. heavyweight division is so bad and wlad so overrated, p4p is about same size, would samuel peter or david haye be as tall as wlad than they wouldve beat him.

    rigo is top 5 easily.
     
  11. PrtectWhoNex

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    All are bad imho.
    Guys like Broner and Mares, and hell, even Martinez look a good deal weaker p4p than both Rigo AND Donaire. Broner has beat no one. Donaire was top5 p4p and lost a close decision to an undefeated 2 time olympic gold medalist. Martinez is done anyways. Lost to Murray.
    Ward > Mayweather
     
  12. Kell Brook

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    Marquez,Mayweather,Ward,Wlad and Martinez(through he has not been recently impressive) are morfe deserving. Let Rigo and Mares notch up a few more quality wins and then I can see them easily surpassing Marquez,Wlad & Martinez.
     
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    Martinez is too low,

    Jmm is too high. In IMO
     
  14. Hands of Iron

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    Mares already has a bunch spread over three separate divisions. Rigondeaux just utterly dominated an elite fighter and has undeniable skills. I'm good on a Floyd/Ward/JMM top three, with Wladimir at #6. Martinez dropped out of my top five off a terrible performance against Murray and he'll probably be inactive for nearly another year.
     
  15. Kell Brook

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    Are you ****ing ******ed! If Haye or Peter was as big as Wlad they would be much slower and also inorder to sustain their respective percentages of muscle mass they would require a massive amount of oxygen thus they would gas at much faster rate than Wlad currently does. I guess you have no idea how human bodies scale up.