Eubank: Benn/Graham were better than Nunn/McCallum!

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But what if McCallum knew what u know and decided 2 box Eubanks like he did with Toney and Eubanks had 2 come 4ward ?
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    atberry is talking shite in this thread....worse than ever.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not in my opinion. Mike was another level.
     
  4. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I wouldn't say he was on another level, they were on the same level, you only have to look at the Watson fights at middleweight to see that, but the fact is that Eubank was naturally four weights heavier and 10-12 years fresher :good
     
  5. MAJR

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    Personally, I think Eubank would give McCallum a tough time of it. It'd last the distance, no doubt, and Eubank's odd style would result in him getting some good shots in and win a couple of rounds, but McCallum was a busier, and better technically speaking, fighter and would wrack up the points to win by decision.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Eubank struggled with Watson, after Mike had beaten him comfortably, and Mike was also passed his peak by then.

    Mike at his best was on another level.

    There's no way Eubank could have knocked out even a passed his peak 90's version of Mike, in 5 rounds.

    He was dreaming.
     
  7. Loudon

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    I don't doubt that.

    I think it would be a very tough fight, and I've got a ton of respect for Eubank's abilities.

    But there's no way in my opinion, that he'd have stopped Mike in 5 rounds.

    Eubank was great! But Mike at his best in the 80's, was just a better fighter in my opinion.
     
  8. atberry

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    Eubank coasted far more comfortably than McCallum against Watson, before his legs went through dehydration. And Watson was carrying 11months of ring rust against McCallum!
     
  9. Loudon

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    Mike never had an ounce of trouble with Watson, past peak.

    Eubank was troubled, and the decision was controversial at the time. That's why a rematch was needed.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    Eubank would get schooled silly by McCallum, The End
     
  11. atberry

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    Watson landed countless right hands on McCallum. He couldn't even touch Eubank.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mike wasn't troubled at all. He was just a league above Watson, without being disrespectful.

    A lot of people thought that Watson beat Eubank.
     
  13. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eubank showed for five rounds who was top-drawer and who wasn't, with incredible skill, then an embarssed looking Watson was given hope when Eubank starting falling over himself when punches weren't landed, having done the weight wrong. I would say Watson won at least five of the last seven rounds, neither man landing anything in R7 and Eubank pulling off a couple of good shots in R9.
     
  14. TBooze

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    I believe I see your point.

    I do not use the term 'all-time'. For me being considered great today, does not mean you will tomorrow. But I did put the proviso in that roughly (at the moment) on average every four years a great fighter is created. So there are roughly 40 great fighters now because Queensberry rules has been around since the 1850's. So in another 160 years, if the sport remains as popular as it has done over the last century and a half, then there will be roughly 80 great fighters.

    My point is although greatness is clearly subjective, I try to use a framework to help explain my judgements.
     
  15. Loudon

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    They were both great fighters, and styles make fights.

    Eubank may have had an easier time with one of Mike's opponents than Mike did, and vice versa.

    I just think that when they were both at their best, Mike was better.

    Eubank was a great fighter, and I think he's underrated by many.

    I think if they'd have fought, it would have been one of Mike's toughest fights.

    I respect your opinion.

    I was only arguing with regards to Eubank's comments that it wouldn't go 5 rounds.

    I don't know in what context it was said, but it surprised me, and I don't agree in anyway.