Ranking on the eye test.

The more I think about it, the less restrictive and more fluid it should be.

Watch enough film to get a feel and make a judgement then.

So with kalamabay he's proven at the highest level, was consistent but suffered a terrible loss. Shouldn't be based on a set number of fights.

**** it pep is in, he looks great on film and people say hr looks even better beating saddler.

Leonard is a great shout.

 

if you were to tier those pp, how would you do it?

 

I think I i might do is rank the greats first on the eye test so thay will separate my tiers. And I will base on available prime footage factoring in losses and consistency.

Second I'll split those in the tiers based upon level of opponent faced.

For example over the course of his career Floyd has at times looked incredible, especially below welter. So he would go in my top tier but due to opposition level would be lower down on the list.

 

So if I rank firstly on how good a fighter looks on film and secondly on the highest level of opposition they were able to defeat, my top tier probably looks like this (not properly ordered)

Robinson
Whittaker
Jones
Armstrong
Duran
R Leonard
Napoles
B Leonard
Kalambay
Mayweather
Lopez
Jofre
Pep
Ali
Louis
Liston
Hagler
Monzon
Harada
Chang

Not sure whether to include Gomez,Marc Johnson and Chavez in that list.

But I think that's my top tier the best 17 fighters ive ever seen on film. I'd then split them on level of opposition. Anyone look out of place on that list (flea you can't mention Floyd )

I'm unsure about Charles but I don't think he looks as consistently impressive as those I listed.

 

I agree with pretty much everything there. I think he's undoubtedly a great fighter and I'm sure if we had footage of him trouncing burley or Moore he'd be a shoe in. I am impressed by the second Walcott fight and I think at worst he's in my next tier. He just seems a bit too hittable from what I see. And even against Marshall, a shot version of Marshall, he gets dropped then. I probably could be convinced to include him cos I'm a bit 50/50 on it.

 

Been watching a bit of Charles today and based on the sum of footage we have of him against Louis and Walcott 2 where he pretty much dominated his opponents despite being the smaller man. And against Valentino where he's bang in his prime, I think he can join the top ranks. So my top tier is now:

Robinson
Whittaker
Jones
Armstrong
Duran
R Leonard
Napoles
B Leonard
Kalambay
Mayweather
Lopez
Jofre
Pep
Ali
Louis
Liston
Hagler
Monzon
Harada
Chang
M Johnson
Charles
Chavez

Them 23 impress me more than anyone else. Mosley looks awesome at lightweight but he goes into my next tier along with guys like holyfield, marciano, tunney, Langford, Lewis, Gomez, fenech, Ross, canzoneri, mcclarnin, hearns, de la Hoya, Hopkins, gans, conn and some others I haven't thought about yet.

 

I'm adding hearns and locce to my top tier. That's my top 25 done.

 

Unsure on my next 25:

mcclarnin
ross
canzoneri
m johnson
lewis
liston
holyfield
hopkins
walker
gans
fenech
canto
marciano
foreman
nunn
de la hoya
mosley
forrest
wright
pacquiao
barrera
morales
marquez
marcel
arguello

that's my first attempt anyways. 26-50