Ricky Burns

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I must have missed when the change was made that if you were out skilled or losing wide after 6-7 rounds that decided things, always thought in my lifetime it was 12 rounds for a World title

Burns as we know is extremely fit and was going the 12 no problem, worst case for Burns if Gonzelez had the heart to fight through the leg fatigue was a draw on the scorecards

 

Good point well made, for me this will in the long run enhance Burns reputations, we'll see how other so called top fighters handle Gonzalez in the future

We'll hopefully see how the likes of Abril,Vasquez and Boner handle Burns, let's see if they really are as good as made out or if Burns is as poor as the haters say :smoke

 

Taylor, Ward, Dirrell- 3 world class fighters with huge expirience. All of the Olympic medalists!

Gonzalez - Had beat journeyman in Puerto Rico

 

Great reply. :roll:

So billy, who do you want Ricky's next opponent to be?

 

Time will tell, lets see how the other top guys handle Gonzalez shall we?

 

Ricky lacks the power to be a true elite. But he's a fantastic fighter in the current era of boxers and easily in the top three of the UK. I'd place him above Haye, actually, but below Froch.

I think the ring rust and the stop-start preparation played a big part in last night's performance, along with Gonzalez being really good.

Overstatement, I think. He was getting outboxed but the way some people are talking Gonzalez had pummelled him to pieces.

Thanks. Sometimes it's just as simple as one guy being much better than expected. But the proof of it is that, when it counted, Ricky came through adversity and Gonzalez couldn't cope.

 

Dirrell was a novice contender. I'd liken that fight very closely to Burns-Gonzalez, in a lot of ways. Froch looked dreadful that night and clearly lost, but lots of people have created a new set of scoring criteria that see Froch winning.

 

Disagree with everything you just said.

 

Really?

Dirrell was a novice contender.

He was.

I'd liken that fight very closely to Burns-Gonzalez, in a lot of ways.

There are quite a few similarities.

Froch looked dreadful that night and clearly lost

Subjective, but not an uncommon opinion. Would you argue that Froch looked good?

but lots of people have created a new set of scoring criteria that see Froch winning.

We saw people giving Froch credit for "wanting to fight" and Dirrell discredited for "being a *****" instead of the traditional four criteria.

 

get ready for the scrap heap

 

Yes.

There was a big difference between Dirrell and Gonzalez in terms of expirience at that point of there careers. Dirrell has faced 4-5 solid top 20-30 opponents and was an Olympic bronze medalist.

Gonzalez dominated and clearly won the majority of the fight. Dirrell stole a couple of rounds. There were very few simularities. There was never a round where Gonzalez was unwilling to engage.

Froch didn't look good but niether did Dirrell. Nobody clearly won or lost that fight. I personally had it a draw.

In a fight like that the 4 scoring criteria can go out of the window as none of the fighters showed an advantage in either area and you can score a round against a fighter for being unwilling to engage. Froch v Dirrell, Bellew v Chilemba, Khan v McCloskey. There were at least 5 rounds in all of those fights which Froch, Bellew & Khan won because there opponent did nothing but stay out of range. Being a ***** is a perfectly valid reason to score a round 10-9 against a fighter.

And please you are in no place to start questioning peoples scoring techniques after the way you scored Rigo v Donaire.

 

Ricky was getting outboxed for the first few rounds but it is a twelve round fight not a seven round. Not always about skills, Ricky showed heart, determination and chin last night. I don't buy the hand injury personally I thought he was shagged. I was bawling at the telly for Burns to jump on him in the 8th.

Also, he has been out for a while and had alot of **** going on changing promoter and going back on Sky, all pressure.

Well done Billy

 

You are clearly just a flag waving fan boy. If Ricky wasn't Scottish then you wouldn't care, I have no doubt about that.

Boxing is about the individual and nothing more, boxers fight for themselves and the money. I don't care where a boxer comes from, I look at them objectively as an individual and do not let jingoistic rubbish cloud my judgement.

 

It was close because Dirrell was negative, but on the scoring criteria he neutralised Froch and swept the closing rounds. Froch looked dreadful but gets a pass for that, it seems.

1 - I don't recall posting a card on that fight other than to say I thought Rigo won it clearly, so I don't know what you're referring to - unless you're just making stuff up again
2 - why do you immediately start sniping when we were having a discussion? You consistently make every discussion into an attempt to put others' down
3 - I can question whatever I want.