Did Foreman beat the count in the Rumble in The Jungle?

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  1. BoxingFanPhil

    BoxingFanPhil Member Full Member

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    Ali had Foreman beaten - well beaten in that fight.
     
    BoxingFanPhil, May 12, 2013
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  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Big George later on in the Ali Doc it really was amazing.

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  3. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman denies the "I was drugged" story, then he repeats it.

    He restated it in his 2007 book and has stated it even after that.

    It all depends on who he is talking to and what kind of image he is trying to create.
     
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  4. ripcity

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    The ref can still stop the fight if he fells that the downed boxer in this case Foreman is unable to fight.
     
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  5. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That would be a TKO if the fighter had beaten the count.
    This fight went down as a KO.
     
    BillB, May 12, 2013
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  6. Primadonna Kool

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    Its the referee's count of 10..? Thats the only count that matters, the referee's count of 10 is never exactly 10 seconds, because its conducted by a human which is..? the referee, and the only count that matters is the referee's count of 10! Its totally irrelevant that somebody can time it with a stopwatch.

    Whenever the referee picks up the count those are the only counts that matter!
     
    Primadonna Kool, May 12, 2013
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  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Hatton/Pacquiao was ruled a KO even though the ref stopped the count.
     
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  8. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know, but it isn't a KO unless a fighter is down for the count of 10. If a fight is stopped due to injury or a fighter being unable to defend himself, it is a TKO.
     
    BillB, May 12, 2013
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  9. turbotime

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    You should email boxrec.
     
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  10. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How does boxrec record Ali-Liston II?

    Do they show it a KO? Liston was not counted out.

    I assume it goes down as the referee called it- right or wrong- unless his call is contested to a commission.
     
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  11. blacktopbully

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    Ali w ko 8 foreman deal with it son your daddy got whipped like a child
     
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  12. blacktopbully

    blacktopbully Boxing Addict banned

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    LOL i'm sure it took him years to get that story straight much like the I was poisoned story

    whatever it takes to get the churches filled I guess
     
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  13. delukard

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    if ali didn't showed mercy when foreman was going down , this discussion wouldn't be happening .
     
    delukard, May 14, 2013
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  14. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thoguht it was obvious he beat the count myself, but he still wasn't going to win anyways.
     
    KuRuPT, May 15, 2013
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  15. Stevie G

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    George would have got beaten up badly had he made it to the final bell of that round and come out for the next one.
     
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