The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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Jasper,

I don't think there was a specific need for a cut off date. Like I say, I believe that he did it to not back down and give into Floyd's demands.

You say that you never said Manny cheated. That's fine.

But I'm asking you straight out now, do you think he did? Do you think he specifically needed a timeframe to cheat?

In my honest opinion, because the circumstances are a lot different now. Floyd really got to Manny, and that's why he ended up suing for defamation. Manny was accused of being a cheat and then had demands thrown at him. He's obviously going to act differently now.

That's right, and a lot of water had passed under the bridge by then.

Who says that the deal was done?

He gave into all of Floyd's testing demands, and said he was happy with 45-55 in Floyd's favour, yet it still wasn't good enough for Floyd.

I said Floyd had GOTTEN what he'd originally wanted, with regards to Manny agreeing to all of his testing demands.

No, what he wanted to do, was to claim all of the PPV revenue, from what would have been the biggest grossing fight of all time eclipsing the $120m that was grossed for his own fight with Oscar in 2007. I agree that Floyd deserved the bigger share, but that was laughable what he tried to do.

Are those the actions of a man that's gotten what he originally wanted, and who wants to fight?

Who says it was a done deal?

You're making a huge assumption that if Manny had agreed to everything in the first place, that the fight would definitely have happened.

Yes, but not $80m + less! The fight had realistic expectation of grossing between $200-300m.

On the grounds of what? That he didn't agree with all of Floyd's demands? Who the **** is Floyd Mayweather? He issues demands, and when the other party don't agree to them all, it's there fault for the fight not taking place? Ha! What a joke!

That doesn't mean he NEVER wanted the fight. It just means that they couldn't compromise. Why does everything have to be on Floyd's terms?

And you're telling me that you're being 100% objective? Ha! Yeah of course you are!

They obviously weren't happy with all of the terms.

They obviously weren't happy with Floyd's contract.

Bull****!

You're going to tell me that if Marquez was convinced that Manny was on PEDS, he'd let it slide because of money? I suppose that goes for all of Manny's other opponents aswell?

It was FLOYD'S stipulation, which was based on his Daddy's speculation, that Manny didn't agree to the first time around.

Who says they agreed to it? Show me proof. And even if they did, they have a right to change their minds. It's ok for Manny to be labelled a cheat with no proof, but he can't change his mind on Floyd's stipulations?

You're a joke!

You are not in anyway being OBJECTIVE!

You have admitted that you don't hold Floyd even 1% responsible.

You are being ridiculous!

Open your eyes!

How the **** do they wear all the blame? On the grounds that they didn't jump through hoops and bow down to Floyd?

I know all about contracts, thanks.

I also know that Manny was backed into a corner, and was accused of cheating with no proof, and had to file a defamation suit.

Stop crying, because I share a different opinion.

Seriously, how arrogant and stupid are you?

I must be an alt because I don't agree with you? Ha!

My arguments are loose?

Ha! You don't hold Floyd at all responsible. Not even 1%

It's all Arum's fault, right?

Ha!

King Floyd can demand whatever the **** he wants, and the other party MUST agree, or all the blame lies with them?

If you can't see that both fighters had a hand in the fight not being made, then there's really no point in debating with you any further.

 

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why do people say he wanted no testing in those years>

remember floyd demanded 14 day testing in 09/10

I believe he then demand 7 days or 3 days next year after pac agreed to 14 days from pressure

then it went to 0 days

pac agreed that last year and then floyd changed the purses of the fights which killed the fight

Manny agreed to testing but not what floyd wanted, both guys ruined the fight due to their ego, for me pac less so as he bent over backwards to give floyd what he wanted around 90 percent.

It should have happened when manny agreed to 14 days, I have no idea why floyd changed from 14 to 7, then to 3, then to 0 and then the splits lol

anyway, as for the reason, simple as this

if I come up to you and demand you sit down, what would you do?

the same way nobody tells floyd what to do, applies to manny at that time, he was top of the world and some guy put all these demands, both guys have huge egos

the interesting part was when manny responding in court, asked floyd to show his test results after the rumours he tested positive twice but got away with it due to usada being useless, floyd dropped the case and then said sorry and paid him!

why? I need answers....

 

Great post!

Apparently it was all Arum's and Manny's fault, because they didn't agree to all of King Floyd's rational demands. atsch

 

I'm sure he's gutted, and personally I appreciate you sharing this as I've nearly **** myself 3different times in anticipation of your next move.

 

The Showtime means Floyd gets his guarantee no matter what - this was rumoured to be one of the main reasons he defected from HBO - sure fire money no matter who the opponent

 

Harvard graduate-highly doubtful,unless the schools standards have been greatly lowered.I have heard this spit bucket holder speak and he is no Hemmingway.

 

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Good luck with that.

 

This is an open question to all posters who think that Manny was NOT CHEATING.

If you think he was, then that's fine.

But if you think he wasn't, why in your honest opinion do you think he needed a specific cut off date?

Honest answers please.

My theory, is that he didn't want to be dictated to by Floyd, so he pushed back with his own demands.

If he was hoping to cheat, how could he have gotten away with it in such a short time frame, and what would have been the benefits?

He said that he was more than happy to be blood tested straight after the fight.

Thoughts?

 

I'll be sure to let Floyd know,im sure he will be hurt

 

list these fighters please

 

You realize there is more reason to suspect Mayweather of using PEDs than there is to suspect Pacquiao?