Mayweather wants Canelo at 147lbs

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  1. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because no one else in the bloody sport does it! So why should Floyd get to?

    People deal with weight disadvantages all the time (none of us were coming to Martinez's rescue when he had to deal with Chavez having 20 pounds on him). If Floyd had no problems fighting Miguel Cotto or Victor Ortiz who came into their mid 160s, then why should he with Canelo (who's normally been mid 160s too throughout his 154 career)? I'll tell you why - it's because Cotto and Ortiz didn't bring the same threat that Canelo does right now.
     
  2. ellaineo

    ellaineo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I honestly don't think Alvarez could make 147 anymore. Saw pictures on his twitter of his 30 day weigh in for the Trout fight, he has to lose an enormous amount to make 154.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    So don't take the fight. If Alvarez is too big for Mayweather then he's too big and thats fair enough but to ask that the rules of boxing weigh ins, whether you agree with them or not, be changed to suit Mayweather on a case by case basis is ridiculous.
     
  4. SMS Employee

    SMS Employee Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: are you drunk? Haye if he fights vitali should ask him to get down to 225. That's what you're basically saying :nut
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    He done it with drug testing, so why not. :lol:
     
  6. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    No. Thats the Heavyweight division. There is no weight limit.

    The reason why theirs weight divisions in boxing is so that the fights are fair and competitive. When fighters get to the point where they can eliminate that by draining there bodies and then hydrating back up 2 weight divisions, it stops being a fair sport and you have one fighter competing at a serious disadvantage.

    The fight being at 154lbs is as much of an advantage to Alvaerez as the fight being at 147lbs is to Mayweather.
     
  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    :good yeah, I made the same point with Olympic drug testing a few years back. By all means bring it into boxing but not just because Mayweather stamps his feet and demands it for a particular fight. if this issue with Alvarez gets up a head of steam you just watch the Floyd fans on the General Forum start calling for same day weigh-ins, even though they'd never given a **** about the issue before.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I personally put the onus on the smaller guy to move up in these situations. If we take it as an assumption that nearly all fighters take advantage of the system to fight at a weight they'll be big at, its not healthy to ask fighters to drop below their weight class. The difficulty comes with the fact we've got a guy that constitutes a massive payday for anyone he faces, so people want to fight him at any costs, and he can make these demands.

    But ultimately, why do you want to fight somebody potentially weakened? Why do you want to breathe life into the "Yeah but he was drained" excuse. It's much more respectable to simply say "he's too big", no shame in that at all. Or, take the fight where both fighters can be physically peak on the night. No other option makes great sense, for anybody, but thats what money does.

    Was the same thing with Ward/Dawson and look what happened there. It's not really a win people look at with great fondness. Even if the weight is never actually an issue in the fight, you feed that potential for people to say it was.
     
  9. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    What if Mayweather fights Ishe Smith and wins the IBF title, then fights Alvarez in a unification.

    There would be a check weigh in 30 days prior where he would have to be170lbs and then one 7 days prior to the bout where Alvarez would have to be 161bs max due to WBC rules, and then weigh in is 20hours before the fight, and he cannot weight more than 164lbs 10 hours before the fight due to IBF rules?
     
  10. SMS Employee

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    End of the day, those fighters are still able to get to that weight class, that's a matter of fact! So they should be able to compete in it, no one should have an issue with that. If anything you can make a case where canelo can max weigh in 164 on fight night. I would reluctantly accept that if it was put into the fight contract. Floyd has fought other guys that have weighed that on fight night so shouldn't be an issue here.
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Fight at 154 under the current rules. If the 2 camps can sort that out then fair enough. Even if Mayweathers IBF title at the weight was a complete bull**** version.
     
  12. MyName

    MyName Simon Adebisi Full Member

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    He can't.Drained or healthy he cannot make 147 lbs for all the money in the world.

    This just means there is no fight as of yet.
     
  13. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    :deal

    A bit of sense at last.

    There are so many hypocrites on here it's ****ing ridiculous.... All of a sudden people are saying:

    "But he fought ODH, Ortiz & Cotto @ 160+"

    Floyd never got credit from all the haters for that, especially in general.... Now all of a sudden it's being used as justification for why he should take the fight.

    Jokers
     
  14. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Its not justification why he should take the fight. Its justification why he should either take the fight at 154 or forget about it and fight welterweights. Big difference.
     
  15. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Mayweather beat Cotto who lost to Trout who lost to Alvarez. So theres more of a case for Mayweather being a legit champion than Alvarez :huh