When its all said and done Oscar de La Hoya will rank higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. Elite

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  2. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar only loss two fights at LMW... one he actually won against mosley. He looked superb at LMW, at that point his body was well adjusted to the weight. So he only had one legit loss as a LMW, and that was to Mayweather, another fight where he actually looked good in and had his spots, although losing what should have been a unanimous decision. Calling someone a blown up *insert weight class*, who does quite well at the weight, and fought there for like 6 give or take years, is pushing it. His body fully adapted to the weight, he had the frame and size, and just got through totally decimating Mayorga. Oscar pretty much moved up because his body was probably outgrowing WW.
     
  3. errsta

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    No.

    In terms of skill/legacy it should be closer than the gap people will put between them, but no way does he rank above Floyd.
     
  4. Pimp C

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    Why because you say so? :lol::rofl:lol:Too bad boxing historians won't agree. You can't lose as many big fights as Oscar has and lose the H2H match up and be ranked higher.:deal
     
  5. Bazooka

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    You cant duck as many challenges as Floyd has then try to make the claim you should rank higher than a guy who has sought out the best challenges and took them head on....
     
  6. Pimp C

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    Taking challenges head on and losing doesn't mean dick. If that's the case Zab Judah would be an ATG.:deal You have to win otherwise it's overrated. Lastly I'm not bashing Oscar I agree he's an ATG and one of the best fighters of his era but he's behind guys like Hopkins, PBF RJJ and Pac that's all.
     
  7. turbotime

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    How much do you hold the Mosley fights against Oscar, despite Mosley being on PEDs?
     
  8. IsaL

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    Corrales < Quartey
    Hernandez < Hernandez (more prime)
    Castillo < Trinidad
    Delahoya < Chavez I
    Mosley < Whittaker
    Gatti < Gatti (more prime)
    Hatton < Chavez II
    Cotto < Vargas
     
  9. Bazooka

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    I thought he beat Mosley in the rematch thought he lost the fight at welter but Shanes a known cheater so even that win is questionable for shane
     
  10. xRedx

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    :yikes
     
  11. Pimp C

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    I don't think Mosley was on PEDS for the first fight, that was a legit win. I honestly think he got on them when he lost to Forrest and then went to 154 and lost to Winky, he was starting to doubt himself and thought he needed an edge. For the second fight I don't hold it against Oscar because I think Mosley was juiced and Shane's record should be changed to reflect it.
     
  12. Bogotazo

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    I think that's a clear edge for Oscar. Especially when you add Trinidad in there.

    People mentioning Oscar's losses need to remember that Boxing is about what you accomplished via who you beat, not who you didn't lose to.
     
  13. Nay_Sayer

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    LO ****ing L!

    Oscar's best win is a roided up former Trinidad KO victim in Fernando Vargas.

    Floyd has the better resume and it aint even close...
     
  14. Bogotazo

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    More like a better version of Mosley than Floyd fought and Trinidad, the man who actually KO'd Vargas. Everybody knows he won those fights.
     
  15. IsaL

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    SRR- 10+ losses
    Emile griffith-10+ losses
    Floyd Patterson- 8 losses
    Muhammad Ali-5 losses
    Roberto Duran 10+ losses
    Oscar De La Hoya 6 losses (One to a roided Mosley, one clear Robbery to Trinidad)