Are Matchroom trying to con us?

Yes, it's the same with everything. That's why we have the power to push back when they try to charge £15 for a boxing card that people have already paid enough for with their monthly subscriptions.

If we bit the bullet and boycotted these PPV events, then they would end up being on the regular sports channels that we already pay for. Some people would claim that these fights wouldn't be made if it wasn't for PPV, but that's not true. There's always enough money to be made from big fights, they don't need to be PPV.

 

How many times does it need to be said.

This show would not be happening if it wern't for SBO.

It would never happen on normal Sky Sports

 

or if Sky put more of the money we pay them into Boxing, Don't let them make you believe SBO was the only way. It probably was with their current budget but its that prior decision (cutting the boxing budget for **** like F1) that made it that way

 

Eddie should still have put on a decent undercard to answer any doubts about this being PPV worthy and made it seem value for money, he hasn't though, he's gone down the route of decent fight **** undercard, does he not realise why PPV was dropped in the first place? People wasn't getting value for money and annoyed with it.

 

I really don't understand this "It would never happen on normal Sky" argument....the fact of the matter is that this fight alone is not PPV worthy. If it can't happen without SBO then so be it....Let the protagonists fight someone else for a quarter of the money....or Eddie could put an undercard on that is worthy of bringing this card to PPV standards. You are being sold Aldi goods at Waitrose prices

 

You've been duped into thinking this by the people that want your £15. SKy Box Office are not the ones that make these big fights possible, they just set a level of expectation that subscription/free to air channels simply can't compete with.

Whenever PPV is mentioned during fight negotiations, eyes light up, hands are rubbed together and extra zeros are added to numbers. Everybody concerned makes more money. The new inflated figures cannot be matched by regular channels like Sky Sports so they claim PPV is the only viable option.

What would happen if PPV suddenly became outlawed in the UK? Would Kessler and Froch turn their noses up at only being on Sky Sports? No, the fight would be made and everybody would still make plenty of money.

 

Because sky won't pay what the two fighters want, because they don't feel it'll generate sufficient subscriptions to justify the cost.

It's not on PPV because both men are such huge stars in the UK.

 

The fighters only want the money they want because they know they'll get it through PPV. They see lesser fighters get top money via the PPV route so quite rightly they want top dollar themselves.

It's SBO that causes the problem of Sky Sports not being able to (supposedly) afford what fighters demand, rather than SBO stepping in where Sky Sports fall short.

I realise PPV is here to stay, but I do believe we are heading for the day where virtually every regular Sky Sports fight night will end up PPV. They'll trump up even more pretend titles to justify it, and they'll get away with it too...

 

I just hope to god this doesn't do big numbers or every other fights going to be PPV, you will get to a stage where Eddies hideous creation Prizefighter, will be the only fistic combat (I refuse to call it boxing because it just isn't) that will be shown on sky normal cards will be SBO.

Apart from a good payment record Eddie is no different from Frank, that is as clear as day.

 

There are several other differences.

 

Ok, he has a less of a fish head as well, but this man is responsible for PF and the comeback of PPV, that should not be celebrated, its ****ing diabolical.

 

You're ignoring Frank's treatment of fans and fighters. There's a huge difference between his attitude and Hearn's when it comes to treating the fighters properly and making sure the fans are looked after.

That argument is like saying "well, if you ignore the fact he molested kids, Jimmy Savile wasn't a bad fella".

 

All Eddie does is smile more while he's taking you for a ****, how is making fans pay £15 extra in a recession for a below par fight card treating them good?

I won't argue with you about treating his fighters better, that is true.

 

This is not a good PPV card but that doesn't mean PPV is a bad thing. PPV & Prizefighter are both good things for British Boxing.

Public Relations, Cross Promotional Ties, Fighters Relationships, Relationship with broadcasters, Marketing, Keeping fighters active, logical matchmaking. Hearn is far superior to Frank in all these areas.

 

He isn't making fans do anything. You have a choice whether you purchase the fight or not.

The choice was Carl Froch v Adonis Stephenson on SS1 or Carl Froch v Mikkell Kessler on SBO.....which fight do you think Hearn was getting 100s of tweets a day asking him to make the fight?

If Hearn had come out and said "I tried to make the Kessler fight but there wouldn't be a budget to have Barker v Lee & Groves v Magee on the undercard so we passed on it" people, including you, would have crucified him.

The only thing Hearn is guilty of is promising to much and not delivering on those promises. Compare that to Franks track record.....come on!