Floyd Mayweather vs. Vernon Forrest at WW

I think Floyd would do better now.

 

Change my pick to Forrest, the jab, speed and range of Forrest is too much and he's the better puncher

 

Floyd is too good for Forrest. He'd win the fight with defense and lead rights. Give Floyd some credit; he accomplished a lot more than Forrest with fewer hang ups. Mayorga and Quartey got the best of Forrest, no disrespect to him.

 

This would probably be a very difficult fight for Floyd. Vernon didnt like to lead, he was tall and had an excellent jab and righthand. It would be a very competitive fight and exactly the type of fighter Floyd would have needed so we could see how good he was. He would be facing another excellent technician.

Vernon was up there with all the great welters in the skills department but he didnt have the star appeal and shoulder injuries really put a hurting on his career.

 

I'd say Mayorga showed his weakness and he was never the same.

 

They got the better of him with hooks or wide punches. Not straight punches. Forrest was open to hooks when he backed off in straight lines.

You've obviously never heard of 'styles make fights' and believe that the more accomplished fighter always wins. That, as history has shown us many, many times over (Forrest-Mayorga for instance) that isn't always the case.

No disrespect to you.

 

Basically Floyd probably can't win this on the backfoot in the middle of the ring, he has to come forward and back Forrest up, something he's not nearly as adept and something he doesn't like doing especially against someone who can clock him on the way in. It's also much harder if he has a weight disadvantage.

 

Exactly. This isn't being disrespectful to Floyd, The Viper is just a bit too much for him stylistically and physically.

Doesn't mean I'd favour Forrest over more top notch welterweights necessarily. But Floyd would not be likely to out general Forrest, as that'd allow Forrest to use all his strengths. And, as you say, to expect him to replicate either Quartey or Mayorga's successes is completely Akashi aged, as they presented problems to Forrest stylistically that Floyd would not.

Floyd would have some success with his jab, quicker feet and pot shotting, but not to win enough rounds. Forrest would love having Floyd there.

If we're gonna' assume Floyd can do what is needed to take Forrest out of his comfort zone we might as well assume Forrest is a completely different fighter as well.

Wait for NoNeck to use Corrales as his next argument for Floyd winning, or Mayweathers 'superior trophy cabinet'.

 

So who did Forrest beat who resembled Floyd, *****? The closest I can come up with is Sergio Mora, who also holds a win over Forrest. I see no reason why Floyd couldn't win this fight by landing 8 lead rights per round.

 

'The closest I can come up with is Sergio Mora' is one of the most painful things I've ever seen posted on here.

Forrest-Mosley I is better than anything Floyd has ever done, even though Floyd is the far, far superior and greater fighter. How'd ya' like them apples?

Bish.

 

Floyd did alright against Mosley. Floyd's welter resume alone is better than Forrest's, not losing twice to Mayorga and all. Take away Shane from Forrest, and Guerrero is as good as anyone he beat (Quartey was old).

 

Mosley was 38 and past it against Floyd, nowhere near as good as the version Forrest twice dominated. Quartey is better than anyone on Floyd's resume but Forrest lost that, but Quartey is better going forward than Floyd with a better jab.

If you want another common opponents Forrest layed it on Baldomir harder than Floyd managed to

Roger Mayweather also alluded to Forrest being a nightmare style for Floyd

 

I actually think Shane managed to disrupt Fortest a bit in the 2nd half of their rematch. Forrest looked disorganised in that one.

 

Mosley did a sight bit better in the rematch, as he did in the rematch with Wright, but in each case the tide was too strong to swim against.

A bout with Floyd and Forrest is very interesting because Vernon would force our P4P king to pull a few rabbits out of his hat. The tall, braided welterweight wasn't at all a nervous jabber, but a smooth, punishing boxer, and he attributed his signature win over Shane to that well-timed left.

It would be highly absorbing stuff, but two points about Mayweather that need to be underlined is that he is a tough cookie (make no mistake) and his right hand will force a grimace.

The final inkling is that Forrest would need to get lucky to stop Floyd siphoning rounds into his bank. As long as Mayweather is in a ring he is perspicacious, registering your hang-ups with each feint. This may make for a stop n' start performance on his behalf, but he'd do what's needed to bag 115-113 on each card.

 

Prime vs prime, Mayweather Jr wins a decision.