When its all said and done Oscar de La Hoya will rank higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I've presented my argument, are you able to present one for Floyd?

    Oh, don't tell me, is it his awesome undefeated record and longevity. :roll:

    Why didn't Mayweather fight Margarito, Williams, Mosley in his prime, Cotto at 147, and now doesn't want to unify 154 with a 22 year old kid.
     
  2. steviebruno

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    :lol: So you're refusing to answer the question.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  3. steviebruno

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    Floyd Mayweather turned Oscar into a fan of his; even got his dad a job training him. :good
     
  4. IsaL

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    You got nothing. :rofl

    I got my argument throughout this thread, you don't have anything. :yep

    You lose. :deal
     
  5. victor879

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    Why do people keep saying this when Cotto admitted that Bob Arum never even discussed the possibility of fighting Mayweather with him? As in, it was a non-issue. Just amazes me how people choose to ignore what Miguel Cotto has said. You know, the actual fighter who has inside knowledge of Top Rank, not random Internet fans with an agenda.

    The Margarito issue is also WELL DOCUMENTED. Bob Arum didn't want to make the fight with Oscar and Mayweather bought himself out of the contract. It's on an ESPN article and you can quote Bob Arum as the reason for the fights not happening. Floyd wanted Margarito, Hatton, Cotto, and Oscar. Bob Arum said no, and people now blame Floyd? ****ing stupid. (Again, Bob Arum's personal beef [with Oscar] ****ing up fights.)

    Mosley was called out FOR YEARS by Mayweather. People need to stop. Mayweather had been calling out both Shane and Oscar since he was a lightweight. They were cash cows, Mayweather was "high risk, high reward." People excuse Oscar and Shane for not answering his calls to fight earlier in his career, but then blame Mayweather in the same breath for "waiting." Stupid.

    Williams? People just pick names out of a hat apparently. Please list at what point in time was Mayweather supposed to fight Williams? There isn't one.....
     
  6. IsaL

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    Such an easy excuse to hide behind a promoter ... If history has taught us anything it's that if both fighters REALLY want the fight any fight can't be made , especially if there's money from both sides to make,
    With all the social media these days fighters can online campaign for a fight to be made until the public demand it , and I don't mean half arse it I mean really go for a fight
     
  8. victor879

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    That's such a naive load of bull**** I almost threw up. Seriously.

    You do know what a contract is right? The promoters call the shots pal. They are the ones putting up the money. Welcome to reality. Promoters don't give a damn what the public says or thinks, they care about making $$$$ off their "product". (fighters) They could give 2 shits what it means for that fighter's legacy or the fans if it doesn't translate into dollars earned for future events.
     
  9. steviebruno

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    Oscar would be top 25 ATG if he wasn't an 8 round fighter.

    As it is, he's top 70.
     
  10. IsaL

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    “When you call yourself the best boxer in the world you have to fight with the best. There are other names at 147 pounds and if Mayweather does not have the courage to get in the ring to fight with me, my career has to continue. I won’t wait for him.”
    –Miguel Cotto 2008


    "I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd.

    "I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."
    -Paul Williams 2010

    Mosley Called out Mayweather for years!!!! WTF you talking about? :lol:

    Mayweather opted to fight Baldomir instead of Margarito. All were still with the Bob Father. The Bob Father offered Mayweather a career payday high of 8 mil. Floyd refused. :deal




     
  11. anj

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    So, 22 pages and not a single convincing case why Floyd is greater. Just some mambo jambo bull**** from some posters who treat Floyd as though his career is:

    W Forrest
    W Williams
    W Pacquiao
    W Prime Mosley
    W Margarito

    What a shame.

    Speaking of Vernon Forrest vs Mayweather..
    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=167886

    Longevity is the main reason why Floyd is considered greater than Oscar.
    This means Bernard Hopkins is GOAT.


    People are like 'People don't have Oscar above Mayweather' - yes, because they haven't assessed Oscar's career properly and will be fine with saying Mosley beat Oscar in the second fight etc.
     
  12. steviebruno

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    How did the DLH/Williams fight turn out? Was he as impressive as he was against Cotto and Margarito?

    Quartey and Sturm are still waiting for rematches, btw.
     
  13. anj

    anj Guest

    **** you IsaL, StevieBruno and TMTPrince is right, you need to also understand like they would have you understand..that Floyd beating Baldomir is a win for the ages.
    It's all about Baldomir :lol:

    There's always a left wing dumbass. It's all about Bradley and his great win against Pacquiao! Some minority dumbasses think he won, just like the case for the Trinidad fight.
     
  14. steviebruno

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    Christ that was gay... :-(
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Incredible argument and analysis. Are you a boxing scholar and writer? :shock: