Yes heres why. Douglas was a bum? Underachiever yes, but not a bum. Shot Holmes who went on to beat a prime Ray Mercer and give Evander Holyfield a far more competitive fight than Tyson and stay in boxing for another 14 years?? Shot to pieces.. Campaigned at heavyweight for three years with two wins of Holmes and one over Gerry Cooney. Spinks weighed some 5 pounds less than Tyson. Tyson walked through him in 91 seconds. Dam he was ancient at 32..:nut Maybe not, but he was an accomplished former champion who had never been off his feet let alone knocked out so brutally like Tyson did. Smith had what 24 fights and was coming off the biggest win of his career a stoppage of Witherspoon. Id say he was at the pinnacle of his career. Tubbs had one controversial loss by majority decision to Tim Witherspoon. Id say Tubbs was in the prime of his career. Either did Lennox Lewis or Larry Holmes, but theyre still great fighters. Not true, he avoided both Lennox Lewis and Razor Ruddock in the prime of his career and chose to fight Bowe because he had beaten him up in sparring in the past. No Tyson dominated a good crop of fighters, thats why he looked invincible. The same fighters that took Holyfield the distance most of the time. You talk about peoples lack of credibility but your posts are horrible. If you hate Tyson for whatever reason thats fine, but take your biased bull**** posts outta here.
sorry kid, but i have not time for a little adolescent, you should post in the general forum, you will be with kids of your same age. (and of course you are one of the worst posters in the classic forum, i would care by answers from decent guys like janitor, mr magoo, mr bill, he grant, unforgiven.)even guys like frankefrank, absolutely.. but believe me... not by dumbs kis like you or azzer85... ) and now.. please.. forget me kid, ok?:hi:
while Holmes was not shot vs Tyson, he was better conditioned 4 Holyfield and Mercer . most agree that de 2nd should have went 2 Holmes whom was crap and a beaten crap by then And in addition 2 weighing less, he was also less solid in his w8 and still needed at least 1 good elbow 2 achieve it, I learned from u that Spinks' knees were well done by then and still needed elbow 2 probably drive Thomas out of his preferred game plan and surely 2 inflict more damage on him . Thomas was a junkie, as i bet u know . Witherspoon claimed that King ordered him 2 throw de fight, maybe King thought that Smith was less dangerous 2 Tyson than Witherspoon was? fact is that they never fought. he surely was close 2 de peak of his w8 until then gr8 HWs, may b, not gr8 fighters or close 2 it. domin8ed them in a similar way that Pryor domin8ed Arguello, at least in their 1st fight if u know what i mean, or de same way William Harison domin8ed Jack Sharkey very wrong, both stopped Thomas, Tillman & Stewart (whom also went de distance with Holyfield) but unlike Tyson, Holyfield stopped Tillis. Holyfield also did much better than Tyson vs Lewis, and i could also add Douglas and most, including u would agree. Tyson did much better vs Holmes admittedly, but vs mutual opponents Holyfield did slightly better in average, if anything. BTW, did I already in4m u that Tyson was a bigger cheater than Holyfield?
Better conditioned possibly, but 4 years older.... so what, the point was that Spinks proved he could compete with top tiered heavies. Again proving that Spinks was a proven heavy. Cooney was a giant man. Tyson wasnt a big heavyweight himself. Elbows? Spinks needed a shotgun to hold off Tyson that night. , Never heard that. I know King forced him into a fight he didnt want to take, but the same could be said for Douglas who fought Holyfield, he obivously wasnt prepared for that, as Tyson wasnt for Douglas, but excuses seem to get used to meet arguements. No, King didnt care who fought Tyson, in fact Im sure he preferred Witherspoon for the name factor. Smith was not as popular if thats says anything for the times. Tyson would have run through Spoon too, he was too slow. he surely was close 2 de peak of his w8 until then gr8 HWs, may b, not gr8 fighters or close 2 it. When did Holyfield fight Witherspoon? He fought Stewart twice going the distance once. "Prime for Prime" ???? They were both equally as bad and Holyfield was far worse in the latter part of his career than Tyson. Tyson would just quit, Holyfield would butt you to death.
Cooney was not a top tier heavy remind me of your opinion about Michael Grant & Lance Whitaker? they were far better than Cooney anyway. in their fight, i blame de use of elbows on Tyson, not on Spinks. Maybe a shotgun would have evened de elbow rush, but just like it would have been less legal, Tyson's use of elbows was less legal than punching by de rules. and still pending: regarding your claim about Tubbs vs Tyson: he surely was close 2 de peak of his w8 until then regarding your claim about Holmes&Lewis gr8 HWs, may b, not gr8 fighters or close 2 it. my error, i meant Thomas, not Witherspoon. I edited and corrected it. Unlike Tyson, Holyfield was older than Lewis, and in particular, older than Tyson himself. He was not prime vs Lewis either, nor was Lewis in his prime vs Tyson. Nor was Cooney in his prime vs Spinks, or Spinks,Holmes in their prime vs Tyson in de examples that u used. Prime Tyson was a bigger cheater than either prime or past prime Holyfield. Those elbows either did his opponents in, or just did a lot of damage 2 them and took them out of their game plan, must b considered a sign of gr8ness, 2 cheat this way.
I know what you're saying, but when it came to Clay, he had the skills & intelligence to overcome the style factor.
Half the **** you write doesnt make sense. The point about Cooney was that he wasnt a small guy and he wasnt horrible either. Spinks was a proven heavyweight when he faced Tyson and Tyson wasnt a big heavyweight himself.
