Well with the amount of people who think that modern day nutrition, training etc doesn't mean squat, (and there is a few, in the past I've read the posts) I thought I'd make my position clear.:good
How so? Lyle hit Foreman a hell of a lot harder then anyone in the 90s. _Maybe_ one or two boxers beat a Joe Louis with Jack Blackburn in his corner and Lewis ain't one.
A convincing case can be made for either to win this, as both are big punchers who showed vulnerability at times, but I have a hunch that Joe would take Lennox out. Joe liked fighting the big guys, though none were as athletic as Lennox. Both could box cautiously or take the opponent out with swift attacks. This is a really intriguing match for me, but I believe that Joe's subtle, often underappreciated footwork would get him into positions to land crisp, short punch combos which would stun Lennox & knock him out. Joe would have to get close though, if Lennox keeps Joe on the end of the jab and follows with the right hand, it could get interesting. But would Lennox want to commit? He may bee leery of counters coming back his way. There is also a strong possibility that with the use of subtle footwork & angles, Joe could outjab Lennox. This is the scenario I actually favour. Louis by ko/tko.
Lennox Lewis would be an absolute test for Joe. Skill and power wise he would be the most dangerous fighter Joe has ever faced. The problem for Lennox that Louis was at his best versus against super heavyweights. Baer 237, Simon 255, Galento 233, and Canera 260. Lennox came in usually around 245. His weight would be a disadvantage with Louis because of Louis' hand speed. For all the talk of Louis' chin, he was only KO'ed once in his prime and that was after being hit with that same hard right hand for round after round. The other KO was Maricano. Lennox ain't KO'ing him. My guess is prime for prime Joe would either surprize Lewis with his speed and get him outta there early or get him later. I don't want to see a KO but I think Louis in his prime was that good and his timing and speed could bring about the end suddenly at anytime. Since Lennox is not going to push the pace or create too much of a stylistic issue, I see him trying to play defense and look for opening rather than use his hieght and weight. I could be swayed.
an interesting matchup, and who would benefit most from the rematch? Louis did much better in rematches
It's a hell of a tricky fight ... a prime, focused Lewis is a class above any of the other super heavyweights, all of whom I'd pick Joe Louis to stop .. IF I bet I'd have to go w Lennox but who knows ... If Louis had Holyfield's chin he'd flatten Lennox but we know he did not ..
meaning Louis' chin was bad? got stopped by Schmeling after 12 rounds of hard right hands, and the other was Marciano..
I don't like the size argument in any Louis fantasy match up. Louis generally struggled with fighters smaller than him and the bigger target only increases his chance of making contact which is why I feel he could take Lewis out. I think Lewis foot speed is underrated and could be a factor here. He could certainly back off all night with that long rangey jab while also possessing the power in his right hand to take Joe out. However I can't envisage Lewis surviving 12/15 rounds against the greatest puncher of all time. A very close one too call, but I'll Take Louis by stoppage in 11.
Well I suppose if Joe Louis caught Lennox Lewis in the same way that Rahman or McCall did, then he could force the same result.. But the flipside of that argument is that if Schmeling could beat Louis from pillar to post and if Braddock, Baer, and Golento could put him on the deck, then Lennox with all his greater attributes than those guys could do likewise. Who knows?
Lennox would duck prime Louis, and wait for the 50's version to come around, then KO him and claim he beat "Joe Louis" LOL!