Lennox Lewis VS Joe Louis

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd pick Lewis to win. He simply has too many tools at his disposal. The Lewis that beat Ruddock would also beat Louis.
     
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  2. Bummy Davis

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    Lewis had a great offensive arsenal and size, this is a dangerous fight for Louis but with that being said Lewis got caught with right hands and struggled to make the 10 count, he came close vs McCall but was visibly hurt and IMO ref did right, Lewis did not recover well once dropped, he never got off the floor to win. Joe Louis on the other hand had the greatest offense in the form of jab, right hand, left hooks, Louis was the best power/combo puncher ever. A very careful Louis wins by KO

    Louis beat all sizes, styles and colors and would win by KO
     
  3. andy

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    It's nice to be respectful of past champions, they have made the sport of boxing what it is. Each era has it's best and Louis was the very best of his time.

    A clever boxer puncher with a cold, killer instinct. A touch over 6' and about 14 stone. He was head and shoulders above his competition.

    But guys, for the love of god look at the films available. Lennox Lewis is a different animal. A better boxer even if they were of the same size, a harder puncher in actual punching power (not fantasy power) and with a very solid record in the chin department, yes that's right, he could take it.

    I say again use your bloody eyes, Lewis in a destruction, maybe very early if he lets loose but I doubt Joe could take a sustained phone pole jab for more than 6 if lennox goes easy. Watch the most effective uppercut a heavy ever delivered as well. This wouldn't be nice for the bomber.
     
  4. janitor

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    The greatest cruiserweight of all time vanquishes the greatest superheavyweight of all time.
     
  5. Absolutely!

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    A fundamental flaw with most of the pro-Louis comments I see here is that people are treating Joe as if Lennox couldn't at any point hurt him. Joe's chin was awfully dodgy, and betrayed weaknesses against fighters far smaller and less hard hitting than Lennox, not to mention less skilled in the case of Galento, Braddock, Muriello and Baer. It's ludicrous to think that a fighter like Lewis could fail to do what those fighters did, and pretty hard to see Louis getting off the canvas to win if he did.

    I'm sorry, but as much as I respect Louis, I don't see this as being at all competitive. Lennox wins by KO and does so early.
     
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  6. fists of fury

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    I dunno...I pick Joe against most H2H, but I'm not comfortable picking him here.
     
  7. janitor

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    While neither of these guys has the best chin, Louis's is unequivocaly the better of the two.
     
  8. Absolutely!

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    That's a little unfair.

    Lennox was only ever on the floor twice in his career, and one of those was a (possibly) premature stoppage, so he didn't really have much chance to prove his ability to get up and win from a knockdown. What he did show, however, was fantastic recuperative ability from being hurt, and against a far higher calibre of puncher than Louis ever dreamed about.

    Whether he'd be able to get up from a Louis knockdown, providing that even happened, will have to remain something of a supposition, but I feel that Louis would have had to have mounted a sustained attack in close to have dealt out the sort of damage needed to drop Lennox and keep him there. Whilst he could drop guys with single shots, he never really showed that concussive one punch power of a Shavers, Smith, Bruno type. It was combinations that Louis excelled at, and many of his opponents were (bafflingly) all too willing to fight him at close range.
     
  9. Absolutely!

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    I disagree. Lennox would never in a million years get buzzed and nearly dropped by a super middleweight.
     
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  10. janitor

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    I am a little bit more concerned by the issue of which opf them got stopped twice by a single lucky punch.

    Lewis's supporters will trot out the usual excusees, but the first thing we have to look at in assesing their durability is who actualy stopped them, and how much of a sustained beating it took.

    Louis was more durable.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Look at Absolutely being a useless Lewis and Klit ball bager as usual. Does it ever end with this clown.

    Galento and the others never cracked Joe's chin. Knocking Louis down , in 2 tonnes case, only induced his wrath and Fury. Galento was quickly torn to shreds.

    Lewis was clumsy, top heavy with bad balance and hadn't the ring iq to outbox Louis.
    He never once came close to knocking old shot, powerless Holyfield down in 24 rounds. His basic straight punches open up to many opportunitys for Loius.

    At the end of the day he felt Ruiz was too skilled for him.
     
  12. Absolutely!

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    Louis was more proven at getting up off the canvas to win. That's unarguable fact.

    Saying he was better at taking a shot is not.
     
  13. Absolutely!

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    Can't say I disagree with this.
     
  14. janitor

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    If Louis had taken that shot from Ramhan, he would have got up.

    That is the bottom line.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Wouldn't say unequivically since he too was KO'd twice. You can say it required more punches, then was the case against Lewis but look at the size difference of the guys who were throwing the punches. Now as to who as more power, it's not even particularly close. Neither is it close as to who has a size, strength and reach advantage.