A prime Mike Tyson (86-89) in the UFC

I strongly believe that Iron Mike would not go into a tournament without training in some grappling. His management was too good, him and his trainer would be too smart to go into a cage without some grappling experience. I believe he could have won some of those early tournaments.

 

The dumb ass OP wa sasking how it would go if he just went in with no grappling training just his peak boxing, even with 12 months training he still gets owned by a TUF contestant with being taken down and pounded.
I like boxing and MMA but they are not the same sport other than the part where they throw punches.
It's like comparing the number 1 tennis player v the number 1 squash player, yes they both swing a raquet of different sizes and every other aspect is a different universe with the environment, technique and rules.

 

Hey Bobi, we gonna start taking chunks outta each other again?

 

The "paragraphs" is the best joke in this suck ass thread.

Tyson didn't even fight in K-1 let alone MMA.

 

It's not like this hasn't played out a thousand times. A boxer gets taken down and subbed/beaten up. People are so silly about Tyson, as if somehow rules don't apply to him.

 

More like a handful?

Mobile boxers would make the transition best IMO.

 

You've seen it a handful of times, that doesn't mean it hasn't happened a thousand times. Most of these "boxer kicks ass in mma" stories end when the boxer goes into the gym and gets manhandled and says it'll take too long to catch up with the guys who have been grappling for years and says to hell with it. It has nothing to do with whose "tougher" or "meaner" or any of that kind of bull****, it has to do with which techniques have a better chance of working, which are grappling takedowns and control.

 

I've also heard of boxers transitioning quite well, my gym had plenty of fighters that trained in both. I don't know of these thousand times. I know of a handful of famous examples and joe schmo examples. As I said, boxers are at an obvious disadvantage in MMA, but mobile boxers can make some use of their movement.

 

i will use paragraphs from now on.

Well stated :good

 

A boxer who seems to be doing alright in mma is raphael butler, he 5-0.

 

Good for him and I hope he does well. But unfortunately as we all know, an undefeated record doesn't really mean **** in MMA. If he's a late-crossover guy with a heavily one-dimensional skillset and he's 5-0, I would suspect that would tell us more about his quality of opposition than about his current ability. :good

:hat

 

Tyson would **** them all.

 

Well he has experience in that skill set

 

He could have won UFC 1 if he was lucky. He would lose pretty easily now.

 

So Tyson would have six months of grappling experience and fifteen years of boxing experience and his opponent would have fifteen years of grappling experience and six months of boxing experience. If we've learned anything from MMA, it's that the second one wins the vast vast vast majority of the times. For some reason lots of people think that grappling is something that you just "pick up" and that's it. Not how it works folks...