Lennox Lewis VS Joe Louis

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by emallini, May 9, 2010.


  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny, I just finished watching the Lewis - Klitschko fight in which Vitali clearly rocked Lewis in the second round. He certainly didn't look tenative in his response.

    Guess we see what we want to see.

    And last time I checked, both had been knocked out twice and I'm pretty certain Louis hit he canvass more often than Lewis. So why punish Lewis for staying on his feet when others may have been knocked down and perhaps got up and recovered. This notion of punishing a fighter because he was down twice in his career is complete nonsense. While your at it you may want to ask whether getting hit twice with punches that ended the fight was sooo much worse than getting out boxed and then KO'd. Seems to me the later is worse than the former.
     
  2. RockysSplitNose

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    Well that's funny coz I just watched it and the first real punch that Klit landed flush staggered Lewis back and he started looking all flustered and back up slightly staggered etc and looking to grab and hold on to steady himself etc and that was only in the second round - that's the kind of thing I mean - the only time I seen Louis going all staggery was when Billy Conn was letting rip as hard as he could go and I think it was the speed of the shots that had Louis a bit at sixes and sevenses in that one but that only the real time I've seen Louis look obviously uncomfortable whereas if I keep watching this Klit fight Lewis straight away looks quite obviously suddenly completely knackered and starts swaying around all over the place and getting very untidy with his technique and looks almost drunkenly trying to brawl his way out of it in that second round and walking into punches and grimacing - I can honestly say I've never seen Joe Louis go to peices this much in any fight - and thinking back I've seen Lennox badly shaken and tottering around in a few fights - off the top of my head against Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno off the top of my head - this one against Klit and he gets very disorganised everytime it happens and I know it gotta be more difficult for a man hi size to fight inside so he does have to grab and hold when he can and try's to shows that he's not flustered but ends up making it more obvious that he is at sixes and sevenses - Joe Louis for me kept his composure and kept his concentration fixed dead pan on the guy and didn't let his technique go out the window like that - that is why I say Louis can cope better under fire than Lewis
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

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    Might want to watch the round after that to see what really happened.

    Better yet, watch the entire fight, based on your comments the outcome may surprise you.

    And critizing a guy for being hurt, and going to pieces at 38 which is a year older than Louis was when he was KO'd is a bit strange.

    No you're right, Louis didn't stagger around in his last fight, like Lewis did, he was merely knocked through the ropes.
     
  4. fists of fury

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    The way Louis cooly got back into the ring always brings a smile to my face. Man, that guy just never got flustered, did he?
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

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    According to the logic of many posters here, Lewis's big crime when he fought Klitschko was not going down, then getting back up to win the fight, cause then he would have showed heart, and intestinal fortitude. Instead he chose to stay on his feet hang on and collect his senses.

    So by him not going down he gets labled as someone who can't win a fight if he's knocked down and someone with no heart a bad chin etc.

    The bottom line appears to be that by Lewis not going down then getting back up to win, it left a real blemish on his legacy.

    There's some really strange logic in that whole thought process if you ask me.
     
  6. MMJoe

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    lennox Lewis TKO6 over Joe Louis.
     
  7. Shawn Kemp

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    Lennox Lewis by 6TKO? I doubt it would take that long. If Lewis wanted to jump all over Lewis in the first round like he did Golota he would and there would be nothing Joe Louis could do about it.
     
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  8. ripcity

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    I think for Louis to beat Lewis. Louis has to catch Lewis making a mistake. Lewis dose not make many mistakes.
     
  9. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think anyone should judge Lennox from his Klitschko fight,sorta like comparing Roy Jones jr from his Green fight.

    Lewis still lost to Rahman,who is a very limited fighter when compared to Louis,and who still hit the much bigger man with a inside shot. Where as Joe never did.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    Well I think if you're assuming they're both fighting at their best, why would you not take the 2nd Rahman fight as an example of the Lewis that Louis would likely be in the ring with. Why focus on the worst version of him in a mythical match-up?
     
  11. SP_Mauler

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    Because it still happened.
     
  12. RockyJim

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    Joe Louis by KO...
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    Maybe it did, but my understanding of mythical match ups is to pit two fighters at their best against each other. I'm guessing that when you're discussing Louis it's not the version who lost to Marciano, or to schmeling, but hey perhaps it is.

    If that's the case, I'll take the Lewis who beat Ruddock over both of these versions of Louis.
     
  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis by knockout.

    Terrible style matchup for Joe Louis.
     
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  15. BoxingFanNo1

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    I'm seeing a lot of best Louis vs worst Lewis in this thread to give Joe the win, I wonder why that is.....