Marcel Cerdan vs Roberto Duran

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  1. Theron

    Theron Boxing Addict banned

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    Middleweight 15 rounds ?
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    the general consensus of cerdan by write ups (since we don't have much ****ing footage) was that he was truly outstanding in his prime. his prime likely being before williams.

    the duran that fought barkley was, for one night, brilliant. he'd give damn near any middleweight hell in my opinion but duran would get outworked over 15, with the championship rounds being truly conclusive for cerdan
     
  3. janwalshs

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    I'd pick Cerdan, as long as Duran doesn't throw him down so he injures his shoulder.
     
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  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Duran`s was brilliant against Barkley but he was probably better against Hagler. He was certainly younger, quicker, busier.

    I don't know if Cerdan was elusive or not. Its hard for me to judge his skills. He could fight for sure and he did beat Zale albeit and older shopworn version.

    I guess Id pick the devil I know better Duran by probably by decision. His defense in the pocket and his counterpunching. He just had so much knowledge. Hit hard enough to hurt almost anyone.

    Duran would have to be in his best possible shape to beat Cerdan. I think he could do it.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    You never know. Duran didn't always play nice. He could get rough in there. He was vicious with those thumbs as well.
     
  6. thistle1

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    the amount of people that cite this don't seem to check the records & stats, there was just over 2 years between them and both fighters had been fighting almost as long as each other, 1934 start for both fighters... and both of them were at the ends of their career.
     
  7. burt bienstock

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    T,yes that Tony Zale was just 2 years older than Marcel Cerdan, but the 3 "WARS" between Rocky Graziano and Tony Zale took so much out of Zale,combined with a 4 year layoff from bouts when Zale was in WW2, made Tony an "older "fighter than Cerdan was in their bout. As posted before I saw Cerdan decision the vastly underated Georgie Abrams in MSG. There is no doubt in my mind that Cerdan at 160 would have decisoned Roberto Duran at the MW limit. Duran was in his prime at LW and WW, and while the "mini" Dempsey Duran was a greater P4P fighter than Cerdan , Marcel was a heavier primed MW than Roberto at 160 lbs. Either Hagler had a night off when he fought Duran, as Marvin did also against Ray Leonard, or Duran and Leonard had the styles to give Marvin trouble...?
     
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  8. JLP 6

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    At 147 I give Duran a great shot here. Maybe even I favor him. But at 160, Cerdan with his speed and movement would have been the snot out of Duran. From Hagler to Barkley Duran went 8 and 3. KO'ed in two by Hearns, edged by Hagler, at least on the cards, and life and death with Barkley and a loss to Robbie Simms.

    With Cerdan, from '44 up until '49 (Lamotta) he beat some pretty good to excellent middlewieghts and a lightheavyweights. I would say the best version of that Cerdan beats Duran not only convincingly but maybe beats him up.
     
  9. heavy_hands

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    cerdan by ****ing decision, cerdan was a very very good mw, duran was a great lw, duran is overrated like hell h2h at 160 pounds
     
  10. kingfisher3

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    cerdan 10 - 5 no knockdowns
     
  11. SLAKKA

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    Since Cerdan spent some prime yrs at 147 y not match them at welter?
    Duran would definitively be favored.
     
  12. MMJoe

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    Cerdan via Decision.
     
  13. Danmann

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    Duran went distance with Hagler cause Hagler fought scared--as did Duran. That was awful fight. Duran was great at lightweight, very good at welter, and not great as middleweight. Pound for pound it's a contest, not at middleweight though
     
  14. thistle1

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    NO,

    Cerdan fought dozens of great wins & stoppages that he recieves little recognition for because they were European fights, WRONG, yes some second to American Top Liners, But NOT all of them.

    but more so Cerdan ALSO BEAT American TOP LINERS and supposed Elite.

    Marcel too strong & powerfull & busy for Roberto the "smaller" great!
     
  15. tommythomas3

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    Duran at his best shape is very hard to beat. Duran by probably UD, maybe KO. At middleweight, I might change my mind, but at welter i'm pretty sure Duran wins.