Juan Manuel Marquez' Rank Of the Mexi-ATGs?

Marquez is a stone cold great fighter! He gets 100% of my respect! Yes, he's definitely a Mexi-ATG.

 

What about Edmundo Esparza beating Harada on points in Japan?

 

In terms of wins and accomplishments, JMM has a case for being ranked among the top 3 Mexicans in my estimation.

 

That sounds like fair comment
What about Morales win over Pac? The same Pac who had just beaten Barrera and drawn with Marquez.

 

Those four may have been better fighters than Marquez, Chavez and Olivares almost certainly were, but I think JMM compares favourably in terms of victories and accomplishments. You look at top tier wins, longevity, success through a multitude of different weight classes, and it's hard to argue that JMM doesn't at least deserve to be in the discussion.

 

Don't get me wrong, I've always been someone who's questioned the quality of JMM's win column, but I think after he knocked out Manny Pacquao in 6 rounds he finally claimed that top tier win to go along with a whole host of other good wins. Wins against such men as Barrera, Diaz, Gainer, Medina, Katsidis, etc. Things also get complicated once trying to assess all of JMM's controversial, debatable decisions. How many victories does he really have over Manny Pacquiao? Did he lose to Norwood and John? The debate rages on.

 

Yes, top ten Mex ATG on anyone's list, JCC above him though.

 

Me too. JMM is Great IMO, a true boxing master, but I don't think people should get carried away with that one night when Pacquaeo's head was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't want to call it a lucky punch, but I don't have another name for it at this moment.