Boxing Expert Dan Rafael: "I'd favor both Klitshckos over Ali"

David Tua barely got by Jeff Wooden, **** outta here with your bull****.

Joe Frazier is a legendary heavyweight, David Tua has achieved nothing.

 

Couldnt KO Haye but his power will play big part in fight vs Ali:rofl Wlad would not even try to land something big he would need to concentrate on landing anything first, so his main thing would be SPEED not power(but you dont know boxing enough to realize that) Ali had 10x better chin than Haye, and lets not talk stamina that department he was 100x better than Haye, basically every thing aside from power Ali did better, Alis constant movement would give Wlad trouble he would not be able to set to land his hardest punches as i wrote he would need to concentrate on speed if he wants to win vs Ali. Would this be easy fight for Ali NO, but which fighter showed he can adjust which fighter beat ATG(in everyone's book) fighters Ali did while Wlad never ever faced ATG fighter(not Wlads fault but it is the truth)
I say Ali UD in very good fight.

 

Yup, Haye made Wlad look very inaccurate and ineffective. Byrd did the same to Vitali. We can only concluce that Ali would befuddle them with his movement.

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Are you melding these two men into one? :huh

Vitali lost to Byrd. Where was his jab? Vitali couldn't hit Kevin Johnson to save his life. Ali was faster and IMHO, had better offensive power than Byrd.

Ali also had a mean killer instinct. Wladimir is chinny, would gas, and eventually would fold.

I wouldn't give the K brothers no shot, but I don't think they dominate that era of HWs. With Foreman in the mix, I don't see them lasting long at all.

 

Ali went life and death with 180lb Doug Jones. No way he beats Wlad or Vitali.

 

WLad does not have the chin. Vitali would have a chance as long as his thin skin does not cut to much.

 

Vitali quit against Byrd so you never know.

 

Fat Dan is no expert

 

Ali is like religion to many of you brainwashed sheep. God fprbid anyone thinks the klitschko's would be COMPETITIVE with him and all the rhetoric and agenda laden butthurt comes flowing.

 

The biggest problem about talking boxing is that people in charge to talk about it don't know **** about the sport.
Can you imagine Charles Barkley saying that Perkins is a better center than Ewing or Shaq?

 

Joe Frazier was an inside pressure fighter, David Tua was an inside pressure fighter, the fight would be a war without either fighter going backwards, here's the problem though dumbie, Tua was a big strong 245 pound brute in his prime, Frazier was like 215, Tua hit harder, had a better chin and was physically MUCH stronger.

This is the concept you dumbies don't realize, yes Frazier had better "technical" skills then Tua, but it wouldn't matter, he doesn't have the physical attributes to beat Tua. Use your ****ing head.

 

Ali's best win BY FAR was George Foreman and truth be told I would favor Foreman vs Ali 9/10 times, exhaustion beat Foreman actually, but Foreman would give the Klitchkos fights, I wouldn't favor him over them though, he'd get jabbed to death. Foreman doesn't have alot of movement. He fights somewhat like the Klitchkos just a smaller version.

 

This pretty much sums you up.

:nut :rofl :blood atsch

 

ATG? is 50% about popularity and about who the media decided to nut hug. Let's really look at this to get on the same page, ALi beat Archie Moore and Floyd Paterson right, ok what made Paterson or Moore superior to Samuel Peter or Corrie Sanders other then the fact they are more pouplar then the later? Are you really stupid enough to believe that little ass Floyd Paterson, a light-heavyweight fighting at heavyweight who was an inside fighter could beat Sam Peter? I'm not saying Samuel Peter is better skilled then Paterson, I'm saying he overwhelms him. I'm not saying Corrie Sanders is better skilled then Archie Moore I'm saying he overwhelms him.

In a fantasy world, if we had a time machine and prime Ali fought prime Klitchko either one, and the bet was your kids, your mother, or your wives LIFE. I don't honestly think that ANY OF YOU would really bet on ALI, your saying ALI because it's just the common thing to do.

When somebody ask's a person the greatest fighters ever, they automatically say the same roll call "marciano ali dempsey robinson blah blah blah" and they've probably never even seen these guys fight. They were human too with weaknesses just like any other fighter. Ali wasn't superman, he was a small heavyweight with no power, and he jumped around and threw jabs the whole fight. Klitchkos wouldn't have to worry about being knocked out by him and they jab him the whole fight and if Ali slowed down he could get stopped.