Boxing Expert Dan Rafael: "I'd favor both Klitshckos over Ali"

Floyd Patterson would put Sam Peters lights out.
Make no ****ing mistake about it.

 

No he wouldn't, he was a better fighter, but he was a fking 1950s 190 pound light-heavyiweght fighting at heavyweight. Floyd Mayweather is better skilled then Mikkel Kessler, but would he beat him in a head to head fight? NO.

Floyd Paterson was BETTER SKILLED then George Foreman, but would he beat him in a head to head fight? NO, Floyd Paterson was better SKILLED then Sonny Liston, but did he beat him? NO, he was overwhelmed by a bigger stronger man who although had inferior skills still beat him.

Lennox Lewis in a head to head match up beats any heavyweight more times then not who's ever fought, followed by the Klitchkos. Yes in some fights another fighter could get a lucky punch, Tyson, Tua, Foreman, Shavers (not ALI though not his style) but more times then not they beat any heavyweight.

When you talk about HEAD TO HEAD matchups and not ACHIEVEMENTS AND POPULARITY, Ali isn't even top 10. Holyfield is better then Ali. Larry Holmes is better then Ali.

 

I don't know about Wlad vs. Ali, but George Foreman on his twitter account while watching Vitali dismantle a contender a couple years ago wrote that he would have little chance against either Klitschko. His fans rushed to his defense citing his huge power and great left jab. Foreman replied to his twitter fans that yes he had great power but was a crude slugger compared to the Klits. He complimented their technical brilliance and great speed for such big men. High praise from such a distinguished champion. Wlad's dominated the division for close to a decade now and has been a top contender for 15 years. How could anybody seriously question a boxing commentator's opinion that Wlad could defeat Ali. Who knows for sure but they were and are both stellar, long-term heavyweight champions.

 

The K brothers are competitive with anyone due to sheer size. They happen to be big men who are also actually skilled. That isn't the point though.

The same could be said about guys like Valuev, Tony Thompson, and Tyson Fury. Nobody mentions those guys though. Size alone makes them "competitive".

Must be fun to pretend huh?

 

50% popularityatsch When i say Foreman, Liston, Frazier are HW ATG there is nothing based on popularity its what they accomplished.
I gave you my brakedown and why i think Ali would beat Wlad in HARD fight i did not say Ali would blow him away or anything but wins close UD in good fight, tell me in short based on what would Wlad beat Ali and dont tell me power since Ali was never ever stopped and no one would stop him ever, especially not safety first fighter like Wlad(with his undoubtedly great power), and i explained why Wlad would not be able to land his harder shots while you did not say single think with your explanation of why you feel Wlad would do something to Ali.

 

wait...what???

 

Who knocked out Ali with one shot?

Jesus, if ignorance was pain you'd be in agony 24/7.

 

Maybe Dan should worry about losing weight and keep his boxing opinions to his fat ass self.

 

while were on the subject where does smoking joe rank? with all the killers he beat :rofl

seriously who did he beat? when i hear joe fraziers name the first thing that pops in my head is him chasing ali all over the ring and ali running and holding.

alis holding makes wladimir look like pac man:bbb

 

Frazier Beat
Quarry,who beat
Shavers,who beat
Norton,who beat
Jimmy Young,who beat
George Foreman,who beat
Michael Moorer,who beat
Evander Holyfield,who beat
Hasim Rahman,who beat
Lennox Lewis,who KO'd

Vitali Klitschko

 

Frazier Beat
Quarry,who beat
Shavers,who beat
Norton,who beat
Jimmy Young,who beat
George Foreman,who beat
Michael Moorer,who beat
Evander Holyfield,who beat
Hasim Rahman,who beat
Corrie Sanders,who KO'd

Wladimir Klitschko in 2

 

Ali would get his ass kicked by either Klitschko. However, that does not mean they are greater fighters. You cannot compare athletes today to athletes of 30-40 years ago.

Jim Brown, Gordie Howe, Wilt Chamberlain, etc were greats because they were amazing for their time.

 

They also never took punches to the face,body shots all the while so tired they could collapse.

 

You people should really know better by now than believe quotes on this forum without verifying them.

"If Fraizer could beat Ali, no doubt Klitschkos give him big trouble."

That doesn't even begin to imply Fat Dan thinks either Klitschko actually beats him. He just thinks they would be competitive matches, and who wouldn't?

 

And the Klits don't fight like Frazier. Ironically, you illustrated perfectly why Dan's logic is flawed.