Ingemar Johansson vs Sonny Liston

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  1. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    don´t use insecticide when you are an insect
     
  2. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    liston is overrated, tons of hw legends would have ****ed him alive.(frazier would destroy him) but still i pick him to stop ingo
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would pick Liston, but a clean, on the button Ingo Bingo sure would have gotten Sonny's attention...maybe too much so.
     
  4. Theron

    Theron Boxing Addict banned

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  5. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    about 5 or 6 heavyweights would have beaten liston for sure, frazier isnt one of them.
     
  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    There are also not that many champions who could not have scored wins over the same men Liston beat.

    Frazier beat better fighters. Peak Frazier pre TFOTC deserves 50-50 chance at worst against any all time champ. Forget the guy Foreman beat, that was not the best joe frazier and sonny liston was not george foreman.

    Prime Frazier with good eyes and better feet would beat Liston to the draw. joe
    was so accurate and landed power shots more regularly than most. Frazier was stronger and hit harder than anyone Liston beat.
     
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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look to the Frazier of the FOTC, and not to the version that lost to Foreman as a fairer assessment of Frazier's worth as a fighter. He clearly was never the same after FOTC when he did whip Ali's ass.
     
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  8. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Bump for any Swedish hairdressers in the house.
     
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  9. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ingo puts Liston down in the frrst round. Liston gets up and over the next 4 rounds begins to re-assert himself. Listons Jab takes the fight out of him with heavy thudding power over time. Fight is stopped late as Ingo is getting walloped by the late rounds and goes to a knee. He takes the count and the fight is over.

    Good fight while it last, but Liston was a sound boxer and has to much power for Ingo to weather it long term. Johansson will hurt Liston, but I think Liston weathers the storm and does not make the same mistake twice. The jab is the key to the match, and both were excellent but Listons hit with more power.
     
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  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don’t think Johansson had the right set of skills or physical tools to be very competitive with Liston.
     
  11. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Active Member Full Member

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    I think Johansson was probably clever not to fight against Liston. Liston would be most likely to strong. Maybe Johannson has a little chance as an underdog with his slickness and great right hand.
     
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  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably the only Swede here, not a hairdresser though, and haven't that much to add.
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Coulda swore Chok was swedish as well?
     
  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah, did not know that.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Do you really think it was possible for Smoking Joe Frazier to take thunderous blows from a peak George Foreman? Even come backing Muhammad Ali at his peak 1967 form was not a puncher, Bob Foster only landed one hard left hook before the fight ended in round 2, and Joe just smiled. Joe was decked by a hard punching Oscar Ringo Bonavena on Sept 20 1966, not once but twice in a round. I liked Joe a lot and agree that he was a locomotive prior to the Fight Of The Century against a come backing Ali that had just 2 fights in 43 months.