1967 Muhammad Ali vs. 2007 Wladimir Klitschko

You are a ****ing idiot. Wlad is the only heavyweight considered to be an ATG who got dominated from start to finish by a non elite fighter.

No other heavy got dominated for every single second against a non Elite.

Lewis was ahead against Rahman, Tyson looked better against Douglas than Wlad did against Sanders.

Wlad literally just got beaten up from the time the bell rang to the time the bell ended. It was just a one sided ass ****ing.


You can't get dominated by Sanders and not be suspect. If Sanders landed a hail mary Lucky punch that's much better than just out boxing Wlad for the entire fight and beating him to death.

Wlad also never avenged his defeats when he could have.

 

:yep Take off the rose colored glasses and take an unbiased boxing history lesson . you will find a bullet and missing lung involved with a fighter who was often koed even when healthy

 

atsch:yep:hey Your a moron :hi:

 

So you're denying his skill? Greb fought one eye blind. You can't deny skill

 

You of course will try and bring up Williams being shot a few years earlier but its of no consequence. He was back and on a decent roll, big with good speed. If you want to take that approach we can say Wlad would never have beaten a healthy Brewster since Lamon was having his first fight after recovering from eye surgery. Come on son, bring something!

 

Sorry? He's a moron? You called Sonny Liston old and slow but a 40yo Thompson and Mormek fast and young? Sonny would take them out in the first round

 

:smoke he was a shell bud . like ALI was himself later in his career . But lets say this, neither fighter faced anyone as skilled as the other . and it is an intriquing matchup . cheers my man .

 

:smoke Don't recall saying either of those guys where fast or young ? And SONNEY is fastly overrated by you

 

Ali had Parkinson and was still fighting thats way different.

We're also talking about skill, his skill level even then was higher then anything Wlad has faced

 

you said Sonny was a slow old man when thats not true one bit especially today(age),if he's slow and old Mormek has to be fast and young by your standards..over rated? ha the guy was a destroyer

 

atsch he was OLD and SLOW . very slow in fact . And what in hell does that have to do with MORMEK ??? wow lol

 

:yep wow lol good night dude

 

No, that's just how Ali made him look. If you were right Patterson, still regarded as on of the fastest heavyweights ever, would have done the same. In fact, can you name any heavyweight before Ali that made Liston look slow?

 

You can't even see the point you're making.

He was not slow. He looked old and slow too you because of how fast ALI was. Wlad I recalled said "Mormek is as fast as Mike Tyson" and that was because Wladimir doesn't move..see the difference..see the point you're making against Wladimir

 

:yep okay . wow