If a white fighter (American) emerged today at 147....

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  1. BillyCrystal

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    "Seahorn" is Spanish for "Sex Machine".

    His jersey was a big seller amongst the Latin-American community.
     
  2. Hercegovac

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    Jason Taylor and Michael strahan are both HOF players, and rg3 broke all sorts of records in his rookie year

    All respect to Seahorn, but his career doesn't even come close to those 3
     
  3. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol.

    And he was bedding and briding Angie Harmon.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course not. But he was a good looking player with a hollywood wife who had a few good years. It's not even worth a mention. It was a decade ago, and I don't even know how true it is that he had the top selling jersey year in and year out.

    Bottom line, he was a guy whose popularity out weighed his achievements. Certainly not the 1st or last. Reggie Bush comes to mind. Tit for tat gets us nowhere.
     
  5. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is not an accident that some families are 'more fortunate' than others.

    Again, you are simply naive to the world in which you live.
     
  6. JasonHensley

    JasonHensley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Keep making excuses.
     
  7. kirk

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    This idea that a white American would be some superstar in boxing is a misguided and foolish idea.

    A great example of this was Kelly Pavlik. He was an undefeated knock out artist at the time he challenged Jermain Taylor for the undisputed middleweight championship of the world. Not a trinket, but THE championship.

    The fight didn't disappoint, with him getting off the canvas to stop Taylor in an exciting fight.

    His popularity was nothing special even after the fight. The white, undefeated, power punching American was no more a 'star' then was Jermain Taylor before him.

    That's not saying a white American couldn't become a star in the states, in a manner harder to do then for people coming from other countries, but that mainly has to do with the language barrier and the exposure, not from the desire or lackthereof to get behind certain fighters.

    Not quite sure where people get this notion that America is waiting for some white fighter to support or throw money at.
     
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  9. PityTheFool

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    I know he's not at 147 but I've said for a long time that Ricky Burns would be a megastar if he was American and promoted properly.

    Humble white boy who's so grounded he still works Saturdays just to keep it real?
    Yeah,it'll be wide open to jokes and abuse here,but coming from nowhere the way he did to fighting for and winning titles would've been huge over there.
    Scots/Irish American white boy all humble and down to earth?
    Bigger than Pavlik.
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bingo. I came on to post the same thing, but that nailed it. :good

    The idea that America's waiting for another Great White Hope is outdated. No more than a few years ago, there was an exciting knockout puncher who won the undisputed crown in a prestige division. If mainstream America were going to blow up over a white boxer, it'd have been done for Pavlik.
     
  11. JasonHensley

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    This shows the intelligence of some of the members on here. Everyone who is bringing up a white athlete likes to mention how clean cut, humble, and religious they are. It doesn't take a lot of common sense to realize those guys are well liked for their ability and the fact they actually act like a decent role model. Not simply because they are white and American. Ocho Cinco, Mayweather, and Broner are disliked because of there personalities, not because they are black. The fact that people think any decent white boxer would be a huge draw and somehow get special treatment don't know **** and are living in the past.
     
  12. PityTheFool

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    My point about Burns was more in reference to his humble personality and grounded attitude.
    I wouldn't suggest for a second that the only reason he would be big was because he was white and I would hate for anyone to think I meant otherwise.

    The Scots/Irish descendancy was in reference to potential fanbase.
     
  13. JasonHensley

    JasonHensley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't take offense to your post. But some people on here actually believe that if a white American fighter came along and was any good he would somehow be a mega star. Simple minded thinking, and we damn sure don't have that type of environment around today that was around years and years ago.
     
  14. Rock0052

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    Big personalities sell.. And, as far as Lesnar goes, the fact that he could transition from A-list pro wrestler to actual champion fighter in unscripted fighting is pretty incredible. That also brought a lot of crossover fans. Looking like the Hulk didn't hurt, either.
     
  15. Rock0052

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    :good