Young George Foreman (prime) v Lennox Lewis (prime)

"I know Lewis is taller and heavier, but I can't see how he is the bigger man"....

 

I don't think anyone is "walking through" Lewis...

Lewis is far too smart and far too good at maintaining distance to get blitzed. Lewis also could bang and hit hard in combination.

Lewis was:

Bigger
Had better defense (by FAR)
Was faster on his feet
Punched straighter
Faster hands
Had a better jab
Maintained distance better
Was smarter in the ring
Was more economical (punch volume-wise)
Made better (smarter) use of his energy
Hit PLENTY hard enough to hurt George. -If Lyle can, Lewis surely could

Foreman:

Hit harder (arguably)
Better finisher (arguably)
Had a better chin (arguably; Lewis was KO'd by HUGE punches/punchers - Foreman was decked by one "puncher" (Lyle) and two non-punchers...)

 

Foreman had a better jab than Lewis. Lewis paws with his jab.

 

I know, that was so ridiculous you'll notice I never responded to it.

 

And Foreman got ko'd by a relatively light punching Ali and very nearly got ko'd by Lyle who wasn't a massive puncher either and got outboxed by Young, Morrison, Holyfield, Schulz and Moorer for most of their fight.

Foreman has far more poor performances and frailties than Lewis and fought much less top 10 contenders.

 

No, the most important thing about a jab is landing it and landing it regularly, it controls, disrupts, forces and errors and sets up other punches, it's not meant to be a powerpunch. Hence Lennox is by far the better jabber

 

if you think that a bit taller and heavier man (because he trained in a gym)is naturally the bigger man you are not very inteligent ... james toney at hw weighed 217 pounds and he did carry it pretty well, david haye looks pretty good at 220 pounds, very muscular he could carry it pretty well,but it was not his natural weight, the frame is the only thing to prove who is the bigger man. trevor berbick an dpinklon thommas weighed 216-220 pounds too, and foreman weighed 217 against frazier, according your stupid logic they were naturally as big as foreman, if you put foreman and lewis with the same training, nutriton in the same era, they would have been very even in size, simply foreman was the stronger man. foreman fought in the 70s and lennox in the 90s, and still if you look their weights Chronologically, foreman in the late 70s when he was 27-28 he had tons oof problems to make less than 230 pounds, he weighed 226-232 between 1976 and 1977 when he was 27-28, and we never saw him in his early 30s but probably he would have weighed around 232-235, foreman weighed 229 in the amateurs at 18(check it if you want) and lewis weighed 220 when he was 23 against bowe... lennox was a bit taller, but a taller man is not Necessarily the bigger man, michael spinks was not bigger than joe frazier, michael nunn was not bigger than qawi, bob foster was not bigger than frazier

 

I think that comment was meant intrinsically/metaphorically to mean Foreman is more of a man than Lewis. "Foreman is the bigger man" so to speak. I'd agree.

 

lyle was a big puncher... (shavers said that he rated lyle, foreman and himself like the hardest punchers ever, and he said that lyle did hit by farrr harder than holmes, and larry was no light puncher)foreman was in his 40s when he faced morrison, holyfield, schulz and moorer. (and still he was competent, they ran from him because he was old and slow and he stopped moorer)jimmy young was nothing like lewis, irrelevant here, and foreman was not knocked out because the power of ali, it was because he was tired, ali had much better stamina, better chin, tougher mind than lewis, it is why he could tire foreman and stop him late, foreman took the shots from ali in the early rounds like nothing and he took shots from much harder punchers than ali. foreman took shots from big puncher slike lyle, cooney, morrison, moorer, (great combination puncher) in a peak holyfield. and he never got knocked out by these guys, lewis got knocked out by nobodies like rahman and mccall by a single shot, yes foreman had by far betetr chin.
your comment was horrible :hi:

 

I would've loved to have seen Lewis fight Foreman in '91.

 

you are a ****ing troll

 

Lyle was not a huge puncher?? He along with Shavers and Foreman were the top 3 punchers from the 70s. Bottom line is Lewis was cold cocked by single punches against McCall and Rahman....nothings. That's TWO one punch ko losses. Only one man ever stopped Foreman and that was Ali probably the greatest hwt ever. Can't compare the two in this regard. Foreman the far superior wiskers. Foreman had a pole like jab while for most of his career Lewis pawed with his left. Foreman I see koing Lewis early. Foreman has the durability while Lewis chin is suspect. Certainly if the fight gets into the later rounds Lewis has a chance to win. I don't see this happening as Foremans fast start steamrolls Lewis.

 

no, you did not answer because you could not.. and if you can´t understand that a weight does not prove who is the bigger man, then your brain i s not that great and i overrated your intelligence.
trevor berbick or pinklon thommas weighed as much as foreman in several fights and they were not fat , do you think that they were naturally as big as foreman?
david haye could carry 212-220 pounds and he was fast , strong at this weight, ali weighed 212 pounds in his prime, do you think that haye (in frame) is naturally as big as ali?
holyfield weighed 210-220 pounds and he was not fat, and foreman weighed 217 pounds against frazier and 214 against chuvalo, do you think that holyfield was as big as foreman?
sonny liston weighed 208 pounds in his prime and he was 6,1. tim whiterspoon was taller and heavier than liston, do you think that spoon was naturally "the bigger man" ?
:hi:

 

Heavy hands ignored for being dull.

 

I wouldn't classify Ron Lyle as a "huge puncher" per say, but rather a man who could crack when he needed to. Sure he could hit.. BTW, the McCall loss was a stoppage, not a KO. Lennox rose to his feet, was badly wobbled and the ref called off the fight, just seconds before the bell rang.. There was never much controversy over it, but there are a select few who thought that it was stopped prematurely.