When its all said and done Oscar de La Hoya will rank higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr

People don't realize this man's dominance, when you're seriously talking about rounds lost over an entire career, that's ridiculous.

 

Barely got past? How so? Is it because a blind judge gave Oscar 7 rounds? It was a clear 8-4 win for Floyd.

I'm trying to figure out why Oscar fans keep saying this but fail to mention that Floyd was a small welter moving up in weight to fight Oscar. Floyd didn't make Oscar move down. Oscar made him move up and still lost. What Floyd was suppose to beat the **** out of Oscar while already being a small welter (only had two legit fights) and moving up? Let's not forget Oscar had a distinct size advantage as well. Prime for prime at welterweight, Floyd beats him. How am I supposed to believe that Oscar would beat Floyd's ass when he had serious problems with a coked up Pernell and Pernell didn't even throw a lot of punches at that. Ringside scoring had Pernell winning that fight. How am I supposed to believe that Shane could box the **** out of Oscar in the first fight but Floyd can't? Oscar was winning the fight in the first half until Mosley came on and boxed Oscar's ears off in the second half. It's not unreasonable to think Floyd could out box Oscar.

 

I don't recall Floyd Jr saying that he didn't want to fight Canelo. The fight is still being negotiated according to Richard S.

 

Uhh Oscar never cleaned out Welter. He lost to Tito and Mosley. Barely got by a coked out Whitaker and Ike Quartey.

Oscar fought Floyd and Pac because he was a draw, not because he earned. after being embarrassed by Sturm and Hopkins he beat Mayorga. Dragged both Floyd and Pac up in weight and had enormous size advantage over both and lost

His best win is ike Quartey. Got clowned by a past prime faded Whitaker. Quit on his stool vs Pacquiao.

Also Floyd and Canelo are in negotiations we dont know the parameters yet. You and i both know you aint puttin nothing on Canelo should this fight come off


Floyd is greater. Deal with it

Longevity
Division hopping
Better wins
More skilled
All around greater athlete



Deal with it

 

Exactly.


Oscar was a pop star who bottled it in his biggest fights and now wears womens underwear and promotes Floyds fight

 

The case can be made that Floyd was more dominant. He actually does have a good resume. It isn't at Oscar's level but even if Floyd did fight certain competition, it still wouldn't match Oscar's. Other than Manny, what other hall of fame competition is on the level of a Chavez (past prime but still) Whitaker (same for Chavez), Tito, Floyd, etc? Don't bring up Mosley because he was to busy worrying about his tooth. In 99 he didn't want the fight either because he wanted to fight Oscar. Floyd has been recognized as a P4P fighter since his 2nd year as a pro. 4 lineal titles in 5 weight classes, 21-0 in title fights, beat 18 world champions, etc. Even longevity can be mentioned. If Floyd retires at 38 and is still recognized as the best P4P how can he be denied? That is an insane accomplishment to be arguably rated the best P4P for 6 straight years and viewed as one of the best for 17 years.

 

Dude i dont know why your just in love with DLH.

The few chances he had to become a super super star, he lost the fight. If he Beats trindad and not run like a girl he has all of Mexico the rest of his career and mexicans actually didnt even like him.

A Chance to Beat Mosley and lost in a great fight.

Beating Mayweather would've made so many people so happy in this world and he lost and it wasnt even close.

Oscar has fought some of the best, beat some of the best but lets be honest here. He's resume is better buty you cant just go off that. It needs to be Resume and boxing abiltity. Well Mayweather was and still is WAYYYYYY BETTER In terms of Boxing abilty. have u ever thought in 44 fights he might have lost 30 rounds! 30 rounds!! Thats it (i dont even think its that many)

What is Oscar ever gonna go down as an ATG in?? Power???....NAH! Speed???...NAH!

Mayweather will go down has a top 5 defesive fight ever!! Thats a fact wether u like it or not. his Speed can be said one of the ATG.

so yes you can say Oscar has a better resume but he lost some of his biggest fights, lost to Mayweather easily. I have to say Mayweather ranks higher

 

lets be honest, statistics, on paper, can be manipulated in any direction in order to prove a point. unless you were as dedicated to watching boxing back when oscar was an olympian, as you are today, you cant really get a feel for who was better. you have to know what the challenger meant at the time these 2 fighters fought them. boxrec cant put you there.
oscar was fighting monsters in his day...roided up monsters. the only time i thought floyd was fighting a monster, was with chico. and i was there for all the circumstances surrounding the fight. no excuses though, floyd looked spectacular.
floyd has failed to fight who the fans felt was the best challenge for most of his welterweight career, oscar took on all the ones who wanted some.
i would expect floyd to look more skilled, given his level of competition and style, but when all is said and done, and all the guys he fought and didnt fight have all retired, he is going to be penalized for his level of competition and will be quite a few slots below dlh on most peoples atg rankings.

 

DLH now, but if may beats Alvarez and another top fighter he will pull ahead. DLH beat better fighters, that's what hurts may against other great guys

 

Floyd's career isn't over to make that assumption. He still has 5 more fights left. I highly doubt after those 5 that Floyd will will rated below Oscar. Floyd is the type of fighter that will be appreciated more after his career is finally over.

 

he cant avoid it, any fighters that can move him up, will beat him, imo. pac could have done it, sergio would have done it and canelo may do it if he goes on to have a hof or atg career one day. i dont see anyone around him anymore who could really elevate him without question.

 

Ok, let's see where Mayweather is at when he's Bhop's age. You just can't compare fighters like that.