When its all said and done Oscar de La Hoya will rank higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr

the only fight he lost that was relevant (in his prime and right weight classes) was against Mosley in their first fight. Oscar comfortably defeated Mosley in their 2nd fight and Trinidad, both should have been 116-112, but he was robbed and you can not hold poor judging against his legacy. Besides, he already beat Ruelas, Gonzales, Hernandez, Quartey, all undefeated and 2 of them he was the underdog going in and stole their belts. Hernandez is also the man Floyd beat later on and said it was his greatest victory! An Oscar De La Hoya left over.

 

I would like an honest answer. Knowing what you know about Floyd, if you put him in ODH's spot in 1999, do you think Floyd would do the same thing. Do you see Floyd taking on Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley x2, Vargas, and Hopkins? People want to praise Floyd for fighting an undefeated Hatton, but can't give Oscar props for stepping in the ring with Quartey and Trinidad....yeah.

 

Defense wins championships that's all that really needs to be said. It's the reason why guys like JMM say PBF is a mother****er and so do his fellow fighters. You know it as well and hate guys like PBF for it and it keeps you up at night and raises your blood pressure because of it. That's why you call guys like PBF runners and pussies and if Pea Whitaker was active today you'd do the same with him as well. Defense wins over these styles and it's been proven time and time again. Learn to accept that fact and move on you'll be able to sleep at night if you do. Or you'll continue to come on internet forums being on the losing side and bash the fighters who practice it and the fans of those fighters who do.

 

Then, you count Mosley 2 and Tito as he won but ignore the fact that he got a gift against Sturm and a controversial win against Quartey and Pernell.

 

You dumb fuk, even emanuel stewart, who was all over floyd's nuts that night, admitted floyd was going to lose the fight if he didn't pick it up, this was around the 7th round, when Oscar was WINNING. Floyd had to bank on Oscar slowing down and showing his age to win and Oscar still managed to win the 12th round on atleast 1 judges scorecards, because Floyd FINALLY decided to go toe-to-toe in the last 5 seconds of the fight where Oscar landed a couple clean hooks.
The only undeniable factor decided in that fight was oscar exposing that prime floyd would get torn up by prime fighters in Oscar's era. Floyd barely beat a slow, aging Oscar, who even freddie said couldn't pull the trigger, and lost his pop.
You gotta be a fukin idiot to think Floyd would have a prayer of surviving against a prime oscar after that **** performance he put on.

 

Oscar lost against Sturm, yes. Oscar should have never been fighting at that weight and was fat and slow, so he was far from his best.
Against Quartey, he outlanded quartey in power punches and knocked quartey down more, he earned every bit of that fight. No way Quartey was going to get the W getting destroyed in the final round like that in a close fight. Had that 12th round never happened, yes Quartey would have won, but you can't get beat to almost a 10-7 round in a close fight and expect to win. I had quartey ahead by 1 point going into the 12th.

 

:rofl

Floyd beat Oscar handily.

 

I used to be a Mayweather Hater, but the **** he gets for "handpicking weak opponents" is ****ing ridiculous. How anyone can say Mayweather handpicks, but Pac doesn't is absolutely insane to me.

Mayweather fought Oscar at 154lbs
Pac later fights an older Oscar at 147lbs, Roach admits making Oscar go to 147 basically killed Oscar

Mayweather fights Hatton when he was undefeated
Pac later fights Hatton after he was KO'd by Mayweather and almost KO'd by Lazcano and looked like **** against a shitty Malignaggi

Mayweather dominates Marquez, who was coming off of KOs of Diaz and Casa
Pac loses (IMO) to Marquez 3 times

Mayweather fights Mosley after Mosley's annhilation of Margarito
Pac fights an older Mosley after Mayweather beat him and fought Mora to a draw! (Roach admitted that Mosley was TOO DANGEROUS to fight after he had beaten Margarito)

Mayweather fights Cotto at 154lbs after Cotto avenged his loss to Margo
Pac fought Cotto at a CATCHWEIGHT after Cotto first lost to Margo

Mayweather took on Ortiz and Guerrero who were both coming off the best victories of their careers also.

 

All very true. :deal

 

ODH was well past prime, as Floyd mentioned several times in the build up to the fight.

Floyd fought Hatton at WW when the only other fight Hatton had had at WW he nearly lost. Floyd is such a small WW, but he won't fighting Hatton at his best weight, that's for sure.

Mayweather had retired when Cotto, Margarito, and Clottey were the men at WW. He comes back and fights a Marquez that had never been above 135 and failed to make the weight.

Aside from that one win over Margarito, what exactly had Mosley been doing lately. He had already been defeated by Forrest, Wright, and Cotto

The whole thing about Cotto be comfortable at 154 is an excuse to try and blow the Mayweather win out of proportion. Cotto had avenged his loss to Margarito at a, surprise, catch weight. Pac and Margarito had an easier time with Cotto.

 

Floyd had to wait till oscar slowed down. Oscar won the first half of that fight, emanuel stewart even said it. Floyds own dad said Oscar should have won because he was touching floyd more with body shots, that floyd fans love to neglect.

 

Oscar never had great stamina you ****ing fool. Stamina is key in the sport of boxing, just one of Oscar's many flaws that was exposed by superior and more complete fighters.:deal It's not PBF's fault that Oscar has a history of fading down the stretch. Many fighters have had this problem and have lost fights because of it. Stamina is important. PBF hit Oscar with the cleaner and harder blows made Oscar's aggression ineffective and made him scared to throw punches in the middle of the ring took away his jab and watched him fade down the stretch on cue much to your dismay.:rofl Face it PBF owns Oscar's golden ass between the ropes and May 5th 2007 will always be known as Cinco De Mayweather deal with it Oscarsexual.:hi:

 

Ohhh **** we got him mad now, mother ****ing screaming out his love for PBF :verysad

 

Steward has as much credibility when discussing PBF as you do. He was a PBF hater and a Oscar dick sucker much like Jim Lampley. Please don't bring him up to support your argument because he does nothing for it.

 

Floyd hurt his shoulder who the **** cares he still lost that fight