When its all said and done Oscar de La Hoya will rank higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Yep why their resumes are similar. Alot of good wins, nothing earth shattering.

    However Mayweather had the edge in consistency, longevity, dominance and skill displayed.
     
  2. JasonHensley

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    I'm sorry, but a man that fights Trinidad, Quartey, Mosley x2, Vargas, and Bernard Hopkins and he didn't fight a bunch of prime fighters at their best weight? Aside from Hopkins he held his own against all of them. Go back and watch the majority of the Trinidad fight. People were stunned at what Oscar was doing. Trinidad was in his prime and a monster. That was special. People aren't going to look back and be amazed when they watch Floyd vs Baldomir or Floyd vs Ortiz. Sorry.
     
  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    C'mon MDubzz at least try and keep it 100.
     
  4. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm glad someone brought this up because I have been wondering the same thing.
     
  5. JasonHensley

    JasonHensley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've seen everything now. *****s asking who did ODH fight. This **** just got sad. The man who has been at WW for years and missed out on the one fight that would have meant something, and retired when there were some legitimate WWs on the scene fought better competition then ODH? Holy ****, what has the boxing world come to?
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Thats all well and good but he didnt win. And Mayweathers career spans 5 weight divisions. His best performance arguably coming before he was 24 years old. I dont know why you are insisting on only discussing his welter career when thats only one chapter of his legacy

    Still did anyone expect him to walk down Mosley? No. Shut out Marquez? No.

    All special performances.
     
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    **** is crazy.

    Pac was prime at 130. I've been saying it for years since they wanna go there it's time to bring it up. and Floyd still wouldn't fight him even at 147. Easy money, easy work right?
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    I keep it 1,000 cousin. Oscar fought better op. did he beat better op? No. He failed against his biggest tests.
     
  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol:

    What did you really expect?
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    His biggest tests were larger than Mayweather's, and Mayweather never even took his though.

    Does that even them out or something?
     
  11. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And so would've your bo-ey had he fought pac in his prime, or
    possibly cotto in his, and definitely mosley in his prime. Oscar
    will be considered better ATG because he took risks, whereas
    fraud pussyrunner didn't. His fans just ASSUME he would've
    beaten those fighters without actually FACING them.:blurp
     
  12. Bogotazo

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    Fair enough. But history won't be as partial to your side as you're making it sound.

    Trinidad, which is a better win than any on Floyd's resume. Nearly everyone thinks he won that fight.

    Nearly everyone thinks he beat a Mosley on EPO in the rematch. Mosley was not at his best, but close to his prime and far fresher than the Mosley Floyd fought, and that's one of Floyd's better wins.

    Vargas was a force to be reckoned with, falling short of HOF status in all likelihood, and De La Hoya wrecked him.

    Whitaker was definitely past his prime, but performed well enough to indicate that he was far from spent. On my card DLH edges him. That's a better past-it ATG than any Floyd has on his resume.

    Those are his best wins. As for depth:

    Undefeated fighters in Sturm and Quartey are largely regarded as robberies, and they were very close fights, won't disagree with anyone who scored them against Oscar. But if you scored them for Oscar, as I did by a hair each time, those are opponents on par or better than many of Floyd's wins.

    Stopped a fresher pre-Ward Gatti sooner. Stopped Genaro Hernandez when he was undefeated, and sooner. This was at 22, when he was also facing solid opponents in Leija and Molina.

    Knocked Mayorga the **** out when he was past his prime.

    Mayweather has a very strong resume, Castillo and Corrales IMO fill a tier missing on DLH's resume, but they're not above Oscar's best wins IMO. And seeing as I think Oscar matches him in depth with razor close decisions against quality opponents, I don't see who Floyd has beaten to overcome that.
     
  13. JasonHensley

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    If people wonder why I focus on Mayweather's WW run, it's because he has been at that weight for 8 years now. In those 8 years, he missed out on the biggest fight in history and on all the legitimate WW challengers when they were there to fight.
     
  14. dodong

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    sheet....the way you're defending oscar make you look/sound more like a homosexual than an oscarsexual.

    :verysad
     
  15. ElCyclon

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    Can't believe some of you are debating this.

    If this same question is asked of both, DLH>>>>Floyd:deal