When its all said and done Oscar de La Hoya will rank higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    So because Floyd wanted the fights he gets a make believe win over them? :tired

    Then I guess Oscar gets a win over Wright. ANother fighter better than anyone Mayweather has faced :deal
     
  2. Doc

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    after mayweather retires he will be forgotten unlike DLH who will always be remembered for taking on the best a true ATG
     
  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    afraid you're wrong
    also, this idea that oscar is an ATG is rubbish - he fought the best but didnt beat any of them!
     
  4. Doc

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    He has a better resume then Mayweather :nut the 0 is meaningless when you avoided the challenges, some of these fans are dumb as ****.. they are just *****tards, so i don't expect them to be intelligent at all.

    Put Mayweather against DLH's opposition and that 0 wouldn't be intact...
     
  5. HoldMyBeer

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    he does have a better resume, but like i said, he lost the biggest fights of his career
    since when is quartey and vargas enough to be an ATG?
     
  6. Doc

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    DLH will always be remembered for who he fought.

    Mayweather will be remembered for who he didn't fight.


    Ultimately.

    DLH>......... mayweather and its not close.

    winning fantasy match ups against your greatest challenges does nothing to your resume.
     
  7. HoldMyBeer

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    ...and will always be debated. you're entitled to your opinion :good
     
  8. xRedx

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    Oscar is not an ATG. Whoever says so DKSAB.
     
  9. Doc

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    DLH beat a prime Mosely, Mayweather nearly got KTFO by a grandpa mosely..

    Come on son, there is a reason mayweather didn't fight all these challenges at the right time, he either avoided completely or waited till its safe to fight. A true coward.

    Beating a LW Marquez, beating DLH left overs like mosely and genaro and having a meaningless 0 doesn't earn him a spot over DLH the ATG
     
  10. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    another note to point out Mayweather has a lot of unheralded wins like C.Hernandez and Chavez two guys who were highly red that became champs the second Mayweather was out of the division both would go on to give tough fights to Morrales. Corley was another one it's easy to say with hindsight he's a nobody but people forget this could easily have been a title fight with Corley losing a close SD to Judah for his IBF belt.

    Also for all the talk about who Mayweather didn't fight people tend to overlook the fact that the guys he actually fought outside of Pac and Tyzu were higher rated in a historical atg sense, like Margarito maybe more popular than Baldomir but Baldomir fought the better fighters, tested himself in more weight classes, and has the better accomplishment Undisputed champ>WBO champ. Even Williams for all the hype he gets he has as many LEGIT wins as Ortiz or Guerrero
     
  11. HoldMyBeer

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    calling him a coward means you have an agenda, so there's no point debating you if you can't be objective

    oscar's 'leftovers' is a foolish way to put it, the genaro win really signalled young floyd's arrival

    you dont like floyd, thats fine
     
  12. Rexrapper 1

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    What the ****? Floyd didn't almost get KTFO. So because he got stunned means he almost got put to sleep? He recovered before the round ended.

    Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd :lol: He didn't want it in 99 or in 06. Why people try to act like he did is beyond me. Mosley clearly complained about needing dentures, Floyd should fight Margarito, he needs to take a vacation, etc.

    Leftover :roll: Let me ask you something. How long (years) in De La Hoya's career would you consider him to be an elite fighter? Then how long would have you considered Floyd to be an elite fighter?
     
  13. anj

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    This thread has actually gone round and round in circles.

    It's up for the fan to decide who's greater. If you have Oscar edging Whitaker and Quartey, as well as beating Mosley 2 and Trinidad, and acknowledging how past prime he was when he fought Mayweather and Pacquiao, and how fat and too small he was against Hopkins and Sturm, then it's clear that Oscar is greater. I believe this.
     
  14. Rexrapper 1

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    Yeah I agree. I personally think Oscar lost to Whitaker, Quartey, and Sturm. I thought he beat Trinidad and Mosley (like I said before what did Mosley accomplish at 154). Oscar was past his prime against Manny and Floyd but he moved both up in weight. Floyd is greater to me because he actually does have a good resume. I know people will debate that but I think he does. Also Floyd's longevity to remain as an elite fighter plus his career isn't over yet.
     
  15. Doc

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    Well there was a poll showing DLH ranked higher and was considered to have the best resume.. It was a landslide victory like 150 for dlh vs 50 for may

    we know what the popular opinion is, DLH> may


    and thats how it will go down in history, the few can argue for may, die hard fans can argue anything so they are rendered meaningless, but the Majority are right in choosing DLH